ODE system. Limit cycle; Hopf bifurcation.

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The discussion revolves around a two-dimensional system of ordinary differential equations (ODEs) that exhibits a limit-cycle solution for certain parameter values. Participants explore the nature of the Hopf bifurcation occurring at a critical value of the parameter \( a \) and seek to determine this critical value.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies the equilibrium point at \( (0,0) \) and calculates the Jacobian matrix, leading to the conclusion that the nature of the equilibrium changes with the sign of \( a \).
  • Another participant suggests using polar coordinates to analyze the system, indicating that the dynamics can be better understood in this framework.
  • There is a discussion about the behavior of trajectories: for negative \( a \), paths spiral into \( (0,0) \) and may lead to a stable limit cycle, while for positive \( a \), paths spiral out from \( (0,0) \) and there is no limit cycle.
  • One participant asserts that the critical value of \( a \) is 0, while others engage in clarifying the implications of this value on the stability of the limit cycle.
  • There is a correction regarding the stability of the limit cycle, with participants agreeing that it is unstable when \( a \) is negative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the behavior of trajectories based on the sign of \( a \) and the nature of the limit cycle. However, there is ongoing discussion regarding the implications of these dynamics and the determination of the critical value, indicating that some aspects remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of stability and the specific conditions under which the limit cycle exists. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps needed to fully characterize the bifurcation.

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Readers interested in dynamical systems, bifurcation theory, and the analysis of ordinary differential equations may find this discussion relevant.

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Problem:

The following two-dimensional system of ODEs possesses a limit-cycle solution for certain values of the parameter$a$. What is the nature of the Hopf bifurcation that occurs at the critical value of $a$ and state what the critical value is.

$\dot{x}=-y+x(a+x^2+(3/2)y^2)$

$\dot{y}=x+y(a+x^2+(3/2)y^2)$

By setting each equation to zero, i found the only equilibrium point to be $(0,0)$.

For the Jacobian matrix at $(0,0)$, I have:

$J(0,0)=\left( \begin{array}{cc}
a & -1\\
1 & a\end{array} \right)$

So:

$\tau=2a$

$\delta=a^2+1>0$

$\bigtriangleup=-4<0$

which gives:

$a<0$: $(0,0)$ is an attractor spiral.

$a>0$: $(0,0)$ is a repellor spiral.

$a=0$: $(0,0)$ is a center.

Does this mean that paths spiral into $(0,0)$ for negative $a$, and then spiral out towards a stable limit cycle? And, for positive $a$ beyond the limit cycle, paths spiral in towards it?

How do I find the critical value?
 
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If you go to polar coordinates you can really see what's going on

$\dot{r} = r\left(a + x^2 + \dfrac{3}{2}y^2\right),\;\;\; \dot{\theta} = 1$.
 
Jason said:
Does this mean that paths spiral into $(0,0)$ for negative $a$, and then spiral out towards a stable limit cycle?

Paths outside the limit cycle spiral outwards, whereas paths inside the limit cycle spiral into $(0,\ 0)$.

And, for positive $a$ beyond the limit cycle, paths spiral in towards it?

When $a$ is positive, there is no limit cycle.

How do I find the critical value?

Clearly, the critical value of $a$ is 0.
 
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Yeah I see I got that backwards.

So when $a$ is positive, paths spiral out from $(0,0)$. When $a$ is negative, paths spiral in toward $(0,0)$, and the limit cycle is unstable?
 
Jason said:
So when $a$ is positive, paths spiral out from $(0,0)$. When $a$ is negative, paths spiral in toward $(0,0)$, and the limit cycle is unstable?

Yes, the limit cycle is unstable. (See my previous post.)
 

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