Old Photos & Deep Psychology: Hilbert's Wiki Article

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the inclusion of photographs, particularly of D. Hilbert, in his Wikipedia article, exploring the psychological and historical significance of such images. Participants reflect on the role of visual elements in conveying information about scientists and their era, as well as the cultural implications of notable hats worn by various historical figures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the purpose of including black and white photographs in a scientific article, suggesting it may evoke deep psychological feelings about the past.
  • Another participant proposes that such pictures help establish the historical context of the scientist's life for those who primarily engage with visual content.
  • A humorous exchange occurs regarding the significance of Hilbert's hat, with one participant asserting it is almost the most famous hat in the history of science.
  • Several participants mention other notable hats associated with historical figures, such as Oppenheimer and Murdoch, discussing their cultural and historical relevance.
  • There is a light-hearted challenge about who has read more of the article, indicating a playful tone among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally engage in a light-hearted debate about the significance of hats and photographs, but there is no consensus on the deeper implications of these elements in the context of scientific articles.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of engagement with the article, and the discussion includes speculative thoughts about the psychological impact of historical imagery without resolving these ideas.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the intersection of history, psychology, and the representation of scientists in media may find this discussion engaging.

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I was reading Wiki's article on D. Hilbert, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space, and couldn't help but smile at that photo of Hilbert with the funny hat. Is it for amusing those who can't make out head or tail of the Wiki article? What's the point of having black and white pictures of people in an article about their discovery? Is there something deep triggered in us when we go, "Boy! Look at that old codger with the beard. Wonder if they had woolly mammoths back then...". Some deep psychological feeling perhaps?
 
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I guess a picture like that can nail down the window of time that the scientist lived, for people who only look at the pictures in a wiki article :-p.

Besides, I kind of like that hat. It's a bit big for him...maybe he needed some extra Hilbert space up there.
 
lisab said:
I guess a picture like that can nail down the window of time that the scientist lived, for people who only look at the pictures in a wiki article :-p.

Heeeyyy... Just what are you insinuating? I read some bits of the article too! :redface:
 
anirudh215 said:
Heeeyyy... Just what are you insinuating? I read some bits of the article too! :redface:

I'm willing to bet you read more than I did :-p!
 
What is the point?

Because he looks more handsome in the hat. It is almost the most famous hat in the History of Science!

A still more famous one was Oppenheimer's hat. It was so famous it could be identified immediately by conoscenti without Oppenheimer under it.

A perhaps more deservedly famous and historically influential hat is the wooden one of William Murdoch, inventor of gas lighting (I wonder if the hat was a fire risk?) and other significant things.

Brunel was usually photographed in a hat, also called stovepipe. He had to be more outdoors than most scientists. I imagine he took it off when in his tunnels.

The only portrait always given for Gauss shows him in a hat, but it looks like a nightcap. The origin of academic caps is that lecture theatres used to be cold.

Does anyone else know any famous scientists' hats?

Edit: Giuseppe Verdi had a hat. He was a composer not a scientist though. If I remember he made his hat famous by wearing it on banknotes, where it would be seen by a lot of people.
 
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lisab said:
I'm willing to bet you read more than I did :-p!

The correct reply was, "Yeah, yeah, keep your hat on." :wink:
 

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