Particle Entanglement Explained: Can 2+ Be Entangled?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of particle entanglement, specifically addressing whether all types of particles can be entangled, the possibility of entangling more than two particles, and the methods of achieving entanglement. The scope includes theoretical considerations and implications of entanglement in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that theoretically, any type of particle can be entangled and that they do not need to be of the same type.
  • There is a suggestion that more than two particles can be entangled.
  • One participant asserts that any interaction between two particles will lead to entanglement, even if they were initially unentangled.
  • Another participant questions whether particles can be considered entangled prior to interaction, especially in cases where conservation rules apply without observable changes in state.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of viewing everything as entangled versus reserving the concept for specific contexts where entanglement is significant.
  • Some participants reference opinions from physics professors and philosophical perspectives suggesting that everything is entangled with everything else.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the general idea of universal entanglement may not hold unless specific initial conditions are prepared and preserved during interactions.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature and implications of entanglement, with no consensus reached on whether the concept should be applied universally or contextually.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of entanglement, the ambiguity surrounding initial conditions, and the unresolved nature of interactions that lead to entanglement.

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Can all types of particles be entangled? Do they have to be the same (electron/electron, etc.)
Can more than two be entangled?
How do you entangle in the first place?
 
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rpthomps said:
Can all types of particles be entangled? Do they have to be the same (electron/electron, etc.)
Can more than two be entangled?
How do you entangle in the first place?

Theoretically, any particle type could be entangled. They do not need to be the same type. And there can be more than 2 particle entanglement.

How you entangle objects is a big subject of its own, and gets complicated very quickly.
 
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rpthomps said:
Can all types of particles be entangled?
Yes. Even when initially unentangled, any interaction between two particles will immediately lead to entanglement.
 
A. Neumaier said:
Yes. Even when initially unentangled, any interaction between two particles will immediately lead to entanglement.
Yes, that's technically true even in situations where that entanglement consists of nothing more than conservation rules. But is it then fair to say that they were not entangled prior to interaction when the conservation rules still applied? Or how about forward elastic scattering of spinless particles where no particle changes its state? In fact, if they were some long term consequence of some primeval "big bang" (or many worlds history) then were they not already entangled by previous interaction -- however insignificant that entanglement may be for their state prior to interaction?

It seems to me we are left with a choice of either (1) employ the very general idea that everything is entangled with everything else (which seems redundant for QM) or (2) reserve the concept as context-dependent for specific forms of entanglement for specific objects where the entanglement is observably significant as something more than a conservation rule but more like a superselection rule (even partial).
 
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mikeyork said:
It seems to me we are left with a choice of either (1) employ the very general idea that everything is entangled with everything else (which seems redundant for QM)

From the various Professors of Physics (including Professors of Philosophy, specialising in Philosophy of Physics) I've written to about this, as well as information in different books, they've all stated everything is entangled with everything else.
 
StevieTNZ said:
From the various Professors of Physics (including Professors of Philosophy, specialising in Philosophy of Physics) I've written to about this, as well as information in different books, they've all stated everything is entangled with everything else.
The end of loneliness. How so very zen.
 
mikeyork said:
1) employ the very general idea that everything is entangled with everything else
This is indeed the case, unless you prepare special initial conditions for a few degrees of freedom to which the discussion is restricted, and you ensure that, for some time, these are preserved by the interaction. Thus there is almost no freedom to choose.
 

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