Peculiar View of Density Matrices: Is There a Problem?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of density matrices in quantum mechanics, specifically whether it is valid to view them without a statistical perspective, akin to Hilbert vectors. Participants explore the implications of this viewpoint and seek clarification on the nature of density matrices and their applications.

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  • One participant expresses a non-statistical interpretation of density matrices, likening them to Hilbert vectors and questioning if this perspective poses any issues.
  • Another participant indicates uncertainty about how to add information to density matrices, suggesting a potential problem with the initial viewpoint.
  • A request for examples is made, highlighting that density matrices are utilized in various contexts, which may differ in completeness.
  • A technical description of the quantum state as a statistical operator is provided, noting conditions for pure states and the mathematical properties of density matrices.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the interpretation of density matrices and their statistical implications.

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Some assumptions about the nature of density matrices and their applications remain unexamined, and the discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and interpretation among participants.

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Hi Pfs , happy new year.
I wonder if there is a problem with the manner i see density matrices:
I use to consider them without a statistical point of view , just like i do with Hilbert vectors. no more no less. So the points on the Block sphere are only pecular points of those which are inside.
Of course if they can also describe mixtures of pure states in a statistical point of view.
is there a problem with that point of view?
 
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As for the titled question, I think yes because I have no idea for information to add to density matrix.
 
Heidi said:
Hi Pfs , happy new year.
I wonder if there is a problem with the manner i see density matrices:
I use to consider them without a statistical point of view , just like i do with Hilbert vectors. no more no less. So the points on the Block sphere are only pecular points of those which are inside.
Of course if they can also describe mixtures of pure states in a statistical point of view.
is there a problem with that point of view?
Could you give an example? Density matrices are used in more than one context, some of which might be more complete than others.
 
The quantum state of an arbitrary system is described by the statistical operator ##\hat{\rho}##, which is a positive semidefinite self-adjoint operator with trace 1. It's a pure state, if it can be written as ##\hat{\rho}=|\psi \rangle \langle \psi|## with some normalized vector ##|\psi \rangle##, i.e., iff ##\hat{\rho}^2=\hat{\rho}##.
 
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