Prime Number Arithmetic Progression

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The discussion revolves around finding the least possible value of the largest term in an arithmetic progression consisting of seven distinct prime numbers. Participants explore various strategies and considerations related to prime number properties and arithmetic progressions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential for trial and error versus systematic approaches in identifying prime arithmetic progressions. There are considerations about the common differences that could be used, with some suggesting multiples of 10 or 6, and others questioning the implications of these choices on the nature of the primes generated.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about prime number characteristics and their implications for forming arithmetic progressions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the types of primes to consider, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or solution.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the constraints imposed by the properties of prime numbers, such as avoiding multiples of 5 and the implications of using certain common differences. Participants also mention the need for proper listings and potential prime-generating programs to assist in their exploration.

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"Determine the least possible value of the largest term in an arithmetic progression of seven distinct primes."

I really have no clue what to do here. Is there a general tactic that you can use to do this, other than trial and error? Some experimenting gives you these of arithmetic progressions:

5, 11, 17, 23, 29
5, 17, 29, 41, 53
7, 19, 31, 43
3, 7, 11
41, 47, 53, 59
61, 67, 73, 79
7, 37, 67, 97, 127, 157
107, 137, 167, 197, 227, 257
53, 113, 173, 233, 293, 353

I haven't found one that gives me a string of 7 primes yet and I've just been looking at primes under 100.

Of course there are general rules to follow when finding the strings that I spotted (shouldn't add a number to a prime which will land you on a multiple of 5, such as adding 12 to a prime excluding 2).

EDIT: Okay, I think I know how to solve this problem. If I had 4, 6 or 8, I'll never get a streak longer than 5, but if I choose a difference of +10 (or a multiple of 10), I might find one more easily.
 
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Remember, Prime Numbers except 2 or 3 can be expressed as 6k±1.
 
AGNuke said:
Remember, Prime Numbers except 2 or 3 can be expressed as 6k±1.

Thanks for this. So would it be worthwhile to only consider the primes that are 1 and 5 (mod 6)?
 
I assume that it would better help you to determine the prime number and thus the relevant progression.

Start from k=1, we get 5 and 7. Both are Primes.
k=2, we get 11 and 13.
k=3, we get 17 and 19.
k=4, we get 23 and 25, not a prime. And so on...

It may help you to get a proper listing, like it is probable that AP can be formed with common difference of 6, 12...

You can also look for Prime Generating Programs, if you want I can give you one.
 
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But I thought that the required arithmetic progression here had to have a common difference that was a multiple of 10? All primes (except 2) are odd, and if you add a common difference that is a multiple of 6 to an odd prime, you will quickly end up with a multiple 5 and you will be unable to get an AP longer than 5 terms.
 
If the difference is 10 which is 1 mod 3 you get a number divisible by 3 at every third step. So you need to include 3 into the difference, it must be at least 2*3*5=30. That is 3 mod 7 and you will bump into a multiple of 7 in every 7th step...

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