Prove $5x+9y=n$ Solutions for $n \ge 32$, $\mathbb{Z}_0^+$

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The discussion revolves around proving that for any integer \( n \ge 32 \), the equation \( 5x + 9y = n \) has solutions in non-negative integers \( x \) and \( y \). The focus is on exploring methods of proof, including mathematical induction and specific examples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts the need to prove that \( n \ge 32 \) can be expressed as \( 5x + 9y \) with \( x, y \in \mathbb{Z}_0^+ \).
  • Another participant suggests using induction, starting with \( n = 32 \) where \( x = 1 \) and \( y = 3 \) satisfies the equation.
  • A later reply discusses how to derive \( n = 33 \) from \( n = 32 \) by manipulating the equation and adjusting the values of \( x \) and \( y \).
  • Participants explore specific cases and conditions under which the equation holds, including considerations for when \( y = 0 \) and how to express \( k + 1 \) based on previous values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof method, and multiple approaches are presented without resolving the overall question of the existence of solutions for all \( n \ge 32 \).

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific values and manipulations without fully establishing the general case or addressing all assumptions involved in their reasoning.

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Prove that $n \ge \$32$ can be paid in \$5 and \$9 dollar bills ie the equation $5x+9y=n$ has solutions $x$ and $y$ element $\mathbb{Z}_0^+$ for $n$ element of $\mathbb{Z}^+$ and $n \ge 32$.
 
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Re: $ solutions

ssome help said:
Prove that $n >=(greater than or equal to) 32 can be paid in $5 and $9 dollar bills ie the equation 5x+9y=n has solutions x and y element (Z(sub0)^+) for n element of Z^+ and n >=32.

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Re: $ solutions

ssome help said:
Prove that $n >=(greater than or equal to) 32 can be paid in $5 and $9 dollar bills ie the equation 5x+9y=n has solutions x and y element (Z(sub0)^+) for n element of Z^+ and n >=32.
induction at n for n=32 x=1,y=3
5 + 3(9) = 32
note that 1 = 2(5) - 9
so 33 = 5 + 2(5) + 3(9) - 9
suppose it is true for k>=32 integer there exist a positive integers x,y such that

5x + 9y = k
for k+1
k+1 = 5x + 9y +1
choose 1 = 2(5) - 9, if y>=1
if y = 0
then k multiple of 5 which is 35 or larger, x>=7 so choose
1= -7(5) + 4(9)
 

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