Prove by induction the inequality

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The discussion focuses on proving an inequality by mathematical induction, starting with the base case for n=1. The inductive hypothesis assumes the inequality holds for n=k, leading to the proof for n=k+1. Participants clarify the correct approach to expand and manipulate the expressions, addressing potential errors in the inductive step. The conversation also touches on the nature of mathematical induction, emphasizing its validity for all positive integers and the implications for countably infinite sets. Ultimately, the proof is established as valid for all positive integers n.
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Homework Statement
Prove by induction on ##n## that when ##x>0##,
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##(1+x)^n\ge 1+nx+\frac{n(n-1)}{2}x^2## for all positive intergers ##n##.
The statements holds for the case ##n=1##
\begin{align} 1+x \leq & 1+x+\frac{1}{2}\cdot 0\cdot x^2\\
=&1+x \end{align}
Assume the statement holds true for ##n=k##
$$(1+x)^k\geq 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2$$
Then, for ##n=k+1##, we have the following
\begin{align} (1+x)^k\cdot (1+x)\geq& 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2+x+kx^2\\
(1+x)^{k+1}\geq& 1+(k+1)x+\frac{(k+1)k}{2} x^2 \end{align}
Which means the statement holds for all positive integers ##n##.

I am unsure about the term ##+kx^2## in the second to last line. I computed it by working backwards from the conclusion and solving for ##A## $$k(k-1)+A=(k+1)k$$But I do not know how to obtain the term working in the forward direction.
 
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I think you're supposed to use the inductive hypothesis on the ##(1+x)^k##, multiply that by ##(1+x)##, expand everything, and throw out the ##x^3## term that you get since that only makes the rest of it smaller.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
I think you're supposed to use the inductive hypothesis on the ##(1+x)^k##, multiply that by ##(1+x)##, expand everything, and throw out the ##x^3## term that you get since that only makes the rest of it smaller.
I do not understand what you mean. I think I already multiplied ##(1+x)^k## by ##(1+x)## in line ##(3)##. Expanding it would be impossible for large values of ##k##.

I think I figured out how to correct my mistake in the original post.

The statements holds for the case ##n=1##
\begin{align} 1+x \leq & 1+x+\frac{1}{2}\cdot 0\cdot x^2\\
=&1+x \end{align}
Assume the statement holds true for ##n=k##
$$(1+x)^k\geq 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2$$
Then, for ##n=k+1##, we have the following
\begin{align} (1+x)^k\cdot (1+x)\geq& 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2+x+0\cdot \frac{1}{2}\cdot x^2\\
=& 1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2 \end{align}
\begin{align}k+1>&k-1\\
\Rightarrow\frac{(k+1)k}{2}>&\frac{k(k-1)}{2}
\end{align}
\begin{align}\Rightarrow (1+x)^{k+1}\geq& 1+(k+1)x+\frac{(k+1)k}{2} x^2\\
>& 1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2
\end{align}
So the statement holds for all positive integers ##n##.
 
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I think I figured out how to correct my mistake in the original post.
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So the statement holds for all positive integers ##n##.
You have a logical error in your argument.

Lines (7) and (8) give us the following, which certainly follows, however, it is not a "strong" enough statement to get the desired result.
##\displaystyle \quad \quad (1+x)^k\cdot (1+x)\geq 1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2##

The statement in line (10) is true enough and leads to

##\displaystyle 1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k+1)}{2} x^2 \gt 1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2 ##

That inequality is in the wrong direction to give the desired result.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
I think you're supposed to use the inductive hypothesis on the ##(1+x)^k##, multiply that by ##(1+x)##, expand everything, and throw out the ##x^3## term that you get since that only makes the rest of it smaller.
To elaborate on what @Office_Shredder suggests here:

Take:
##\displaystyle (1+x)^k\geq 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2} x^2##
and multiply both sides by ##(1+x)##.

Expand the right hand side.
 
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Oh no. I should have multiplied both sides by ##1+x## at the induction step but I did something weird like adding to one side.

The correct induction step:
Assume the statement is true for ##n=k##
$$(1+x)^k\geq 1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^2$$
Then for ##n=k+1##,
\begin{align}(1+x)^k(1+x)&\geq (1+kx+\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^2)(1+x)\\
=&1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k+1)}{2}x^2+\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^3\end{align}
##x## is positive and ##k## is a positive integer greater than ##1##, so ##\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^3>0##.
\begin{align} \Rightarrow (1+x)^{k+1}>&1+(k+1)x+\frac{k(k+1)}{2}x^2\end{align}
So the statement holds true for all values of ##n##.
 
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docnet said:
##x## is positive and ##k## is a positive integer greater than ##1##, so ##\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^3>0##.
There's a small error here. ##k \ge 1## and ##\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^3 \ge 0##. So, we have equality for ##n = 1## and ##n = 2##. You need ##k = 1## to cover the first inductive step from ##k = 1## to ##k+1 = 2##.
 
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PeroK said:
There's a small error here. ##k \ge 1## and ##\frac{k(k-1)}{2}x^3 \ge 0##. So, we have equality for ##n = 1## and ##n = 2##. You need ##k = 1## to cover the first inductive step from ##k = 1## to ##k+1 = 2##.
Oh okay. That makes sense. Thank you. I thought that showing the statement holds for the case ##n=1## in the first step of the proof means we only consider the integers ##k>1## in the second step. To be honest, I still do not fully understand how inductive proofs work. Although I have almost learned how to write simple inductive proofs, I do not understand why it should be a proof at all, and why it is structured the way it is.
 
Also, nothing ever gets by you @PeroK, does it?
 
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docnet said:
Oh okay. That makes sense. Thank you. I thought that showing the statement holds for the case ##n=1## in the first step of the proof means we only consider the integers ##k>1## in the second step. To be honest, I still do not fully understand how inductive proofs work. Although I have almost learned how to write simple inductive proofs, I do not understand why it should be a proof at all, and why it is structured the way it is.
Suppose we show ##P(1)## and ##\forall k \ge 1: P(k) \Rightarrow P(k+1)##. Then we have ##\forall n \ge 1: P(n)##. That's what induction says.

To see this, let's call the inductive step ##I(k)##:
$$I(k) \equiv P(k) \ \Rightarrow P(k+1)$$Now, for example, suppose we want to show ##P(63)##:
$$P(1) \ \text{and} \ I(1) \ \Rightarrow P(2)$$ $$P(2) \ \text{and} \ I(2) \ \Rightarrow P(3)$$$$ \dots$$$$P(62) \ \text{and} \ I(62) \ \Rightarrow P(63)$$And, in general, we can do that for any ##n##.

Also, suppose, you claim induction does not work. I.e. we have a case where ##P(1)## and ##\forall k \ge 1: I(k)##, and yet there is some ##n_0## where ##P(n_0)## fails. That's what it would mean for induction not to work. You check ##P(1)## and you prove ##I(k)##, for ##k \ge 1##, yet there is some ##n_0## where ##P(n_0)## is false.

Now, we definitely have ##I(n_0 - 1)##. Because we've proved the inductive step for all ##k \ge 1##. And, if we have ##P(n_0 -1)## then we have ##P(n_0)##. That's a contradiction to ##P(n_0)## being false. That means that ##P(n_0 -1)## must be false.

We can then argue in one of two ways. We could let ##n_0## be the least value of which ##P(n)## is false. And we immediately have a contradiction, because we've shown that ##P(n_0 -1)## is also false.

Or, we could work our way backwards one step at a time until we get ##P(2)## false and finally ##P(1)## false. Which is a contradiction, as we've checked ##P(1)##.

Therefore, induction works!
 
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Also, nothing ever gets by you @PeroK, does it?
I don't know about that. I generally check ##n = 2## if I can, as it stops me wasting time trying to prove induction of something that isn't true! I saw the equality for ##n = 2## and was, therefore, suspicious of your strict inequality.

It's a minor point!
 
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PeroK said:
Suppose we show ##P(1)## and ##\forall k \ge 1: P(k) \Rightarrow P(k+1)##. Then we have ##\forall n \ge 1: P(n)##. That's what induction says.

To see this, let's call the inductive step ##I(k)##:
$$I(k) \equiv P(k) \ \Rightarrow P(k+1)$$Now, for example, suppose we want to show ##P(63)##:
$$P(1) \ \text{and} \ I(1) \ \Rightarrow P(2)$$ $$P(2) \ \text{and} \ I(2) \ \Rightarrow P(3)$$$$ \dots$$$$P(62) \ \text{and} \ I(62) \ \Rightarrow P(63)$$And, in general, we can do that for any ##n##.

Also, suppose, you claim induction does not work. I.e. we have a case where ##P(1)## and ##\forall k \ge 1: I(k)##, and yet there is some ##n_0## where ##P(n_0)## fails. That's what it would mean for induction not to work. You check ##P(1)## and you prove ##I(k)##, for ##k \ge 1##, yet there is some ##n_0## where ##P(n_0)## is false.

Now, we definitely have ##I(n_0 - 1)##. Because we've proved the inductive step for all ##k \ge 1##. And, if we have ##P(n_0 -1)## then we have ##P(n_0)##. That's a contradiction to ##P(n_0)## being false. That means that ##P(n_0 -1)## must be false.

We can then argue in one of two ways. We could let ##n_0## be the least value of which ##P(n)## is false. And we immediately have a contradiction, because we've shown that ##P(n_0 -1)## is also false.

Or, we could work our way backwards one step at a time until we get ##P(2)## false and finally ##P(1)## false. Which is a contradiction, as we've checked ##P(1)##.

Therefore, induction works!
That is very cool! You wrote a proof that induction works. I have never seen that before.

Question: Does that method induction work for all values of ##n## up to a countable infinity, or only up to finite values of ##n##? Or is there a different procedure for countably infinite values of ##n##?
 
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I don't know about that. I generally check ##n = 2## if I can, as it stops me wasting time trying to prove induction of something that isn't true! I saw the equality for ##n = 2## and was, therefore, suspicious of your strict inequality.

It's a minor point!
Maybe minor, but an important point nonetheless :)
 
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docnet said:
Question: Does that method induction work for all values of ##n## up to a countable infinity, or only up to finite values of ##n##? Or is there a different procedure for countably infinite values of ##n##?
There is a critical, fundamental point here about the nature and properties of countably infinite sets: i.e. ##\mathbb N##.

If we say that a statement is true for all ##n \in \mathbb N##, then:

a) That is a statement about finite numbers. Every ##n## for which that statement is true is a finite positive integer.

b) The statement is true, collectively, for an infinite number of integers at one mathematical stroke.

To rephrase this idea: if a statement is true for every finite subset of ##\mathbb N##, then it is true for all ##\mathbb N##.

We can actually use the idea of contraposition now to prove that. The contraposition is:

If a statement is false for ##\mathbb N##, then it must be false for some finite subset of ##\mathbb N##.

And, of course, that holds, because if the statement is false, it must be false for some specific ##n \in \mathbb N## and hence false for any finite subset that includes ##n##.

Therefore: by showing that induction works for any finite value of ##n##, implies that induction works for the whole countably infinite set ##\mathbb N##.

Going beyond the integers, there is a thing called transfinite induction. But, in truth, I know very little about that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfinite_induction
 
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