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The discussion revolves around proving a mathematical assertion regarding integers not divisible by 2 or 3, specifically that if an integer \( a \) is not divisible by either, then \( a^2 \equiv 1 \pmod{24} \).

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  • Participants explore the implications of \( a \) not being divisible by 2 or 3, discussing the possible remainders when \( a \) is considered modulo 24. Some participants question the clarity of the initial assumptions and suggest additional explanations for certain steps in the proof.

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There is an ongoing examination of the proof's clarity and structure, with suggestions for elaboration on specific points. Participants are actively engaging with the reasoning presented, and some have offered alternative perspectives on the interpretation of the problem statement.

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Some participants note ambiguity in the phrasing of the problem regarding the logical interpretation of "not divisible by 2 or 3," highlighting the potential for misinterpretation between inclusive and exclusive conditions.

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Homework Statement
Prove the assertion below:
If the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##, then ## a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Relevant Equations
None.
Proof:

Suppose that the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##.
Then ## a\equiv 1, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 ## or ## 23\pmod {24} ##.
Note that ## a\equiv b\pmod {n}\implies a^{2}\equiv b^{2}\pmod {n} ##.
Thus ## a^{2}\equiv 1, 25, 49, 121, 169, 289, 361 ## or ## 529\pmod {24}\implies a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Therefore, if the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##, then ## a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
 
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Math100 said:
Homework Statement:: Prove the assertion below:
If the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##, then ## a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Relevant Equations:: None.

Proof:

Suppose that the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##.
Then ## a\equiv 1, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 ## or ## 23\pmod {24} ##.
Note that ## a\equiv b\pmod {n}\implies a^{2}\equiv b^{2}\pmod {n} ##.
Thus ## a^{2}\equiv 1, 25, 49, 121, 169, 289, 361 ## or ## 529\pmod {24}\implies a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Therefore, if the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##, then ## a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Correct, but you could have explained the first "Then" a bit. It is clear that ##a## cannot be even, so it cannot be even modulo ##24## either. What rules out ##3,9,15,21##?

(I know what. I only think that a little remark would have been helpful.)
 
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fresh_42 said:
Correct, but you could have explained the first "Then" a bit. It is clear that ##a## cannot be even, so it cannot be even modulo ##24## either. What rules out ##3,9,15,21##?

(I know what. I only think that a little remark would have been helpful.)
The fact that ## 3\nmid a ##, rules out ## 3, 9, 15, 21 ##.
 
Math100 said:
The fact that ## 3\nmid a ##, rules out ## 3, 9, 15, 21 ##.
I know. But a line like ##a= 24m + 3k=3\cdot (8m+k)## would have made it visible. It was just a suggestion since this is the only step that isn't immediately obvious. At least to me.
 
fresh_42 said:
I know. But a line like ##a= 24m + 3k=3\cdot (8m+k)## would have made it visible. It was just a suggestion since this is the only step that isn't immediately obvious. At least to me.
Where should I insert this line then?
 
I thought about the following:

Math100 said:
Proof:

Suppose that the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ##2 ## or ##3 ##.
This means ##a=24s+ 2t= 2\cdot (12s+t)## or ##a=24s+3t=3\cdot (8s+t)## cannot occur and the only possible remainders are ...
Math100 said:
Then ## a\equiv 1, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 ## or ## 23\pmod {24} ##.
Note that ## a\equiv b\pmod {n}\implies a^{2}\equiv b^{2}\pmod {n} ##.
Thus ## a^{2}\equiv 1, 25, 49, 121, 169, 289, 361 ## or ## 529\pmod {24}\implies a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.
Therefore, if the integer ## a ## is not divisible by ## 2 ## or ## 3 ##, then ## a^{2}\equiv 1\pmod {24} ##.

However, your proof was ok. That was only a suggestion for lazybones like me (and consider my local time of 0:35 p.m.).
 
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Thank you for your suggestion.
 
The statement of the problem looks a bit ambiguous to me.

When we say "not divisible by 2 or 3" do we mean :
((NOT divisible by 2) OR (NOT divisible by 3)))
or do we mean
(NOT (divisible by 2 OR divisible by 3))=(NOT divisible by 2) AND (NOT divisible by 3).

From the way the proof goes I think we mean the 2nd interpretation :).
 
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Delta2 said:
The statement of the problem looks a bit ambiguous to me.
That is automatically always the case whenever NOT meets AND or OR. language is bad with parentheses. However, it is relatively easy to see that ##(2\cdot 3)^2 \not\equiv 1 \pmod {24}## which answers any ambiguities.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Correct, but you could have explained the first "Then" a bit. It is clear that ##a## cannot be even, so it cannot be even modulo ##24## either. What rules out ##3,9,15,21##?

(I know what. I only think that a little remark would have been helpful.)
Yes, I think he has merely listed the squares of his first list. He could have said so, it takes a moment to realize.

Math100 seems to have corrected his previous tendency to nonlogical/ incomplete or irrelevant arguments, and is now tending to great succinctness. Not exactly wrong, but if too much he could easily find if he comes back to these things after a year it has become hard for him to know what his reasonings were.
 

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