Proving tan²θ - sin²θ = tan²θsin²θ

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Homework Statement



Prove the Identity: tan²θ - sin²θ = tan²θsin²θ

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Well I got up to (sin²θ/cos²θ) - (sin²θcos²θ/cos²θ) = sin⁴θ/cos²θ

I got the answer cause my calculator says sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin⁴θ

But I don't know how sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin⁴θ.

How do you subtract sin²θcos²θ with sin²θ?

Also while I'm at it, how does sin⁴θ - cos⁴θ = 1 - 2cos²θ?
 
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Cyborg31 said:
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The Attempt at a Solution



Well I got up to (sin²θ/cos²θ) - (sin²θcos²θ/cos²θ) = sin⁴θ/cos²θ

I got the answer cause my calculator says sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin⁴θ

But I don't know how sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin⁴θ.

How do you subtract sin²θcos²θ with sin²θ?
Pull the common term out and simplify.

Also while I'm at it, how does sin⁴θ - cos⁴θ = 1 - 2cos²θ?

Realise that sin⁴θ - cos⁴θ can be written as a difference of squares, and that there is an identity which let's you write expressions of the form (a^2-b^2) in terms of the sum and difference of a and b.
 
neutrino said:
Pull the common term out and simplify.
Realise that sin⁴θ - cos⁴θ can be written as a difference of squares, and that there is an identity which let's you write expressions of the form (a^2-b^2) in terms of the sum and difference of a and b.

I don't know what you mean. I'm supposed to remove the sin²θ from both sides? How do I do that? Divide both sides by sin²θ? Then wouldn't that become 1 - cos²θ which only equals to sin²θ?
 
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Cyborg31 said:
I don't know what you mean. I'm supposed to remove the sin²θ from both sides? How do I do that? Divide both sides by sin²θ? Then wouldn't that become 1 - cos²θ which only equals to sin²θ?
sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin²θ(1 - cos²θ) = sin⁴θ
 
Cyborg31,

You are almost done. You are just one step away. Just FACTOR what you showed on the right-hand side. Notice you have sine squared as factor!
 
Sorry for asking a stupid question.

But how did you get:
sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ
=sin²θ(1 - cos²θ)

Thanks.
 
It isn't that hard.

[tex]tan^2 \theta - sin^2 \theta = \frac {sin^2 \theta} {cos^2 \theta} - sin^2 \theta[/tex]

[tex]= sin^2 \theta ( \frac 1 {cos^2 \theta} -1)[/tex]

Can you finish?
 
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Integral said:
It isn't that hard.

[tex]tan^2 \theta - sin^2 \theta = \frac {sin^2 \theta} {cos^2 \theta} - sin^2 \theta[/tex]

[tex]= sin^2 ( \frac 1 {cos^2 \theta} -1)[/tex]

Can you finish?

Well... no, cause that's basically what I'm asking.

I know how to get that far, it becomes sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ which I don't know the steps to get it to sin⁴θ... I guess it's like I don't understand/remember how to get x^2 - (x^2*y^2) = x^4?
 
Do you understand that (ab - ac) = a(b - c)?
 
Back to your original work, remember two very fundamental identities:

Tan(b) = sin(b)/cos(b)
...and...
cos(b)*cos(b) + sin(b)*sin(b) = 1 [please excuse lack of typesetting]

That last identity directly gives you:
sin(b)*sin(b)=1-cos(b)*cos(b) which you can use in your last step.
 
Three trigonometric identities in a row: sin^2 u + cos^2 u = 1, 1 + tan^2 u = sec^2 u, and 1 + cot^2 u = csc^2 u.

Are you aware of these identities? And you know that (1/cos x) is the same thing as (sec x)?
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With those identities.. you should be able to change
https://www.physicsforums.com/latex_images/12/1264215-1.png
to
[PS Integral, you forgot the "theta" after sin^2]
[sin^2 theta][sec^2 theta -1]
Refer back to the 1st drawing I linked.. See which has the "sec".

And, if you can't remember
Three trigonometric identities in plain text: sin^2 u + cos^2 u = 1, 1 + tan^2 u = sec^2 u, and 1 + cot^2 u = csc^2 u.

the other two equations (you should at least remember the 1st), you can derive the 2nd by diving everything in the 1st by sin^2 theta, and likewise, to get the 3rd equation, divide everything in the 1st by cos^2 theta.
 
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[itex]\frac{1}{\cos x}[/itex] is defined to be sec x.
[tex]\sec^2 \theta -1[/tex]

That fits into the 2nd identity from the last post.
 
Lol, nm I figured out what you guys mean, just factored the sin²θ out of sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ, it was so simple... I need to work on factoring...

Anyways, thank you guys for the help.
 
Cyborg31 said:
I got the answer cause my calculator says sin²θ - sin²θcos²θ = sin⁴θ

Just a thought - perhaps you're rusty with factoring skills because you've been relying on your (TI-89?) way too much?
 
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Integral said:
It isn't that hard.

[tex]tan^2 \theta - sin^2 \theta = \frac {sin^2 \theta} {cos^2 \theta} - sin^2 \theta[/tex]

[tex]= sin^2 \theta ( \frac 1 {cos^2 \theta} -1)[/tex]

Can you finish?

I have this quesy feeling that the OP never did understand the completion of this problem.
so:

There are several ways to finish this off. One could recognize that :
[tex]\frac 1 {cos^2 \theta } = sec^2 \theta[/tex]
so we have

[tex]= sin^2 \theta (sec^2 \theta -1) = sin^2 \theta tan^2 \theta[/tex]

or you could do the following:
[tex]= sin^2 \theta ( \frac 1 {cos^2 \theta} -1)= sin^2 \theta ( \frac 1 {cos^2 \theta} - \frac {cos^2 \theta} {cos^2 \theta}) = {sin^2 \theta} ( \frac { 1 - cos^2 \theta} {cos^2 \theta}) = {sin^2 \theta}( \frac {sin^2 \theta}{cos^2 \theta})= {sin^2 \theta}{tan^2 \theta}[/tex]
 
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drpizza said:
Just a thought - perhaps you're rusty with factoring skills because you've been relying on your (TI-89?) way too much?

Yea... that makes sense I guess since the last time I did any real factoring was over a year ago with polynomials and the rest I just punched it in my calculator.

And I understand how to complete all the trig identities now, I just never thought about factoring them, which basically solved all the problems I was getting stuck on.