Question about Objects in Ultra Deep Field

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The discussion revolves around the identification of certain bright objects in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, specifically those that appear with diffraction spikes. Participants explore whether these objects are nearby stars, distant galaxies, or other astronomical phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the bright objects with crosses are stars in our galaxy, attributing the crosses to diffraction of light caused by the telescope's secondary mirror supports.
  • Another participant agrees that some objects with diffraction spikes are stars but posits that not all are; they may include quasars or other distant objects that appear star-like.
  • This participant emphasizes the difficulty of finding a patch of sky devoid of Milky Way stars, yet notes that the Hubble Deep Field was taken from a relatively star-free area.
  • A different participant mentions that there are also artifacts from the camera that can produce horizontal lines, which may complicate the identification of objects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the bright objects with diffraction spikes, with some asserting they are primarily stars while others argue for the possibility of quasars or artifacts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact identification of these objects.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the distance and nature of the objects, as well as the potential influence of camera artifacts on the observed image.

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The objects with crosses are stars in our galaxy. The crosses are caused by diffraction of light around the supports that hold the telescope's secondary mirror.
 
phyzguy said:
The objects with crosses are stars in our galaxy. The crosses are caused by diffraction of light around the supports that hold the telescope's secondary mirror.

not necessarily all of the objects with diffraction spikes are stars in our own galaxy. some may be quasars or QSO's shining from across the visible universe. after all, they're called what they're called b/c of their star-like appearance, even though they are not stars. they can often be bright enough (even over cosmic distances - that is, several billions of light years) to cause diffraction spikes. you have to remember that, even though its virtually impossible to find even the smallest patch of sky without stars of our own Milky Way in it, the Hubble Deep Field was taken from one of the least star-inhabited patches of sky the Hubble team could find. so while it may be impossible to find a patch of sky completely devoid of Milky Way foreground stars, it doesn't necessarily mean that all objects with diffraction spikes in the HUDF are stars in our own galaxy.
 
There are also artifacts from the camera. They are famous for producing horizontal lines.
 

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