Questions in Physics: Kinetic Energy & Penetrance of Materials

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of particles, their velocity changes, and the relationship between these factors and the penetrance of materials, particularly in the context of radiation and medical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a particle can lose kinetic energy gradually to reach a lower velocity at a specific point, suggesting this is relevant to their research.
  • Another participant affirms that a particle with mass, like an electron or proton, can lose kinetic energy if acted upon by an external force, such as a magnetic field.
  • It is noted that massless particles, like photons, cannot have speeds other than the speed of light in a vacuum.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between a particle's velocity or energy and its penetrance of materials, indicating that absorption methods also play a role.
  • One participant mentions that light is absorbed by materials based on the energy matching the photon, while different mechanisms apply to bulk absorption like X-rays.
  • There is a suggestion that applying a force can allow a molecule to move at a specified velocity and lose energy, with an example of using an electric field to slow charged molecules.
  • Another participant offers to provide information on the attenuation of X-rays, indicating a potential area of focus for the original poster's inquiry.
  • A later reply connects the concept of kinetic energy loss to proton beam therapy, providing a reference for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the ability of particles to lose kinetic energy and the factors influencing penetrance, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the nature of particles and the conditions under which they lose energy, which may depend on specific contexts or definitions not fully explored in the thread.

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I have no idea about physics and i do not even remember anything about high school physics . I'm a medical student but i have a question in physics . this question may sound strange or stupid but if anyone can answer me , it wold be appreciated .
if a particle moves at a specified velocity as a part of radiation . can this particle lose kinetic energy gradually so as to reach a much lower velocity at a specified calculated point ?
is there a relationship between the velocity or energy of that particle and penetrance of materials?
can we make a molecule (any molecule ) to move at a specified velocity and then gradually lose energy?
i want the answer to these question as I'm doing a research for the college
 
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scottbekerham said:
if a particle moves at a specified velocity as a part of radiation . can this particle lose kinetic energy gradually so as to reach a much lower velocity at a specified calculated point ?
If it is a particle with mass, such as an electron or proton then yes.
It needs some external force to slow it down, such as a magnetic field. Electrons losing energy in a magnetic field are used to generate X-rays for example.
A masslass particle such as light can't have any speed other than 'c' (in vacuum)

is there a relationship between the velocity or energy of that particle and penetrance of materials?
Partly, it also depends on the method of absorption.
Light is absorbed by bonds in the material which have the correct energy to match that of the photon, so particlular wavelengths can be effectively blocked while others pass through.
Different mechanisms apply to just bulk absorption of things like xrays.

can we make a molecule (any molecule ) to move at a specified velocity and then gradually lose energy?
If you apply a force, yes. So if the moelcule is charged you can slow it down with an electric field. A mass spectrometer puts the same charge on molecules of different mass, an electric field then slows them with the same force - since heavier molecules will slow less (imagine putting the same braking force on a car and truck) you can measure the masses of the molecules and identify them.
 
Hi mgbphys,
i think he need some information on attenuation of x-rays [medical physics]..if this is what you need please reply..i can give you some relevant information.
 
scottbekerham said:
if a particle moves at a specified velocity as a part of radiation . can this particle lose kinetic energy gradually so as to reach a much lower velocity at a specified calculated point ?
Essentially,yes. That is the basis of proton beam therapy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_therapy
 

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