Recrystallization - finding the amount of the final product of Cmpd A

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The discussion revolves around calculating the amount of the final product of Compound A after recrystallization, based on given solubility data and the presence of impurities. It involves theoretical and mathematical reasoning related to the recovery of a compound from a solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant provides the mass of Compound A that can theoretically dissolve in 20 mL of ethanol at 78 degrees Celsius, calculating it to be 10.4 g.
  • Another participant suggests that the final mass of recrystallized solid will be higher due to the presence of Impurity B, but notes that the question specifically asks for the mass of Compound A.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the amount left dissolved in ethanol, questioning if it refers to the solubility at 0 degrees Celsius, which is 0.08 g/mL.
  • One participant confirms that 0.08 g/mL is the amount remaining in the solution after recrystallization, indicating that this mass is lost with the ethanol discarded.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the problem and the calculations involved. There is no consensus on the final amount of Compound A obtained, as differing interpretations of the solubility data and the wording of the question lead to confusion.

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Participants highlight potential ambiguities in the problem statement, particularly regarding the wording and the assumptions about the solubility of impurities and the final product. The discussion does not resolve these ambiguities.

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Homework Statement


Compound A
mass - 11.0g
solubility in ethanol at 78 deg C - 0.53 g/mL
solubility in ethanol at 0 deg C - 0.08 g/mL

Impurity B
mass - 2.5 g
solubility in ethanol at 78 deg C - 0.82 g/mL
solubility in ethanol at 0 deg C - 0.12 g/mL

Impurity C
mass - 2.5 g
solubility in ethanol at 78 deg C - insoluble
solubility in ethanol at 0 deg C - insoluble

The sample is recrystallized using 20mL of ethanol. It is boiled with 20mL of ethanol, filtered by gravity and then cooled in ice and filtered by suction. How much compound A should be obtained as the final product?

Homework Equations



Percent recovery = pure mass / crude mass x 100

The Attempt at a Solution



0.53 g/mL. 20 mL of ethanol. totals to 10.4 g.
2.5 g is insoluble due to Impurity C

Honestly, I do not know where to start as it feels like I am missing one piece of essential information.
 
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bluenarwhals said:
0.53 g/mL. 20 mL of ethanol. totals to 10.4 g.

And that's almost the final answer. You should just take into account amount that was left dissolved in ethanol.

Mass of the recrystallized solid will be higher (because of the presence of B), but question doesn't ask for the mass of solid after recrystallization, but for the mass of compound A. Can be just a lousy wording though.
 
10.4 g. The amount that was left dissolved in ethanol? Do you mean the 0.08 g? I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. Thanks for answering.
 
0.08 g per mL of ethanol - this is what is left in the solution after recrystallization (and it is lost with the ethanol that you are throwing out).
 

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