Satellite Weapons | Dark Rivers of the Heart Spoiler

  • Thread starter Thread starter GTOM
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Satellite
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around the technological feasibility of satellite-based weapons and surveillance as depicted in "Dark Rivers of the Heart." Participants express skepticism about the realism of satellite lasers causing harm, noting that current technology does not support such capabilities in practical applications. They discuss the challenges of tracking individuals and vehicles from space, highlighting that effective facial recognition requires significant telescope size or multiple images from various angles. The limitations of low Earth orbit for tracking are acknowledged, as targets would only be visible for short periods. Concerns are raised about the ability of satellites to see through obstacles like thick clouds and forest canopies, with consensus that radar is necessary for such conditions. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the gap between science fiction portrayals and actual technological capabilities.
GTOM
Messages
982
Reaction score
68
Just finished reading Dark rivers of the heart.(SPOILER AHEAD)

Personally i found the ending pretty much irrealistic, i don't think that on contemporary tech level, a satellite laser could do any serious harm to a person.

However satellites that can identify terrorists and even penetrate the atmosphere with ray weapons is a common sf trope.

But what could the power requirements for the later? I guess only low orbit sats could do such things, fire from geo orbit would require even bigger magnitude of power.

I also wonder about the more realistic option of tracking persons and vehicles. As far as i know face recognition is very challenging, either extreme size of telescope is required, or make many many images from different angles and transform them to a higher res image.
But could a vehicle disappear in the wilderness, once it is tracked?
Can sats see through thick clouds without radar?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
GTOM said:
Just finished reading Dark rivers of the heart.
I have not read - so I will respond only to what you post. I am not sure what you mean by "contemporary tech level".
GTOM said:
i don't think that on contemporary tech level, a satellite laser could do any serious harm to a person.
Is this stuff in production or just in the lab. Clearly, no such satellites are in orbit now. The devices that are seen in some videos shooting down drones from a couple of miles away, are fairly heavy devices. Still, in some ways, space is more flexible. Sources of vibration are more controllable. Mirrors will not be warped by their supports and 1G of gravity. So a large reflector can be more easily targeted.
As far as the mass of those devices, they could be sent up in pieces - reflector, laser, power storage, solar arrays.
As to whether they could do serious harm to a person, people are pretty fragile. If you can get a few kilowatts on target for a few seconds, that will ruin someones day.
GTOM said:
But what could the power requirements for the later? I guess only low orbit sats could do such things, fire from geo orbit would require even bigger magnitude of power.
Yes, definitely low orbit.
GTOM said:
I also wonder about the more realistic option of tracking persons and vehicles. As far as i know face recognition is very challenging, either extreme size of telescope is required, or make many many images from different angles and transform them to a higher res image.
"Tracking" has limitations from low orbit. You will only have the target within your horizons for a few minutes. So you would need to track from geo-synchronous orbit. I will leave it up to others to determine how large an aperture you would need to track a car-size object from geo orbit.
GTOM said:
But could a vehicle disappear in the wilderness, once it is tracked?
Do you mean traveling under a canopy? Seeing through canopy is a significant challenge. So would shooting a DEW through canopy.
GTOM said:
Can sats see through thick clouds without radar?
I don't believe there are any "non-radar" wavelengths used with satellite remote sensing that can see through a cumulonimbus.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes GTOM
I couple of days ago, I watched a sci-fi animation short film titled Salya The First AGI which was introduced to me by my friend. It was more scientific that most of the scifi movies I've ever seen and at the same time more surreal than most surreal movies I've watched. Something like a combination of Matrix , Aladedin and Salvatore Dali paintings. It bring this question to my mind that whether AI can find new physical laws or change the existing laws of physic? It sounds so ambitions but...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
9K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
8K