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The discussion centers on the feasibility of satellite-based weapons and tracking technologies as depicted in the novel "Dark Rivers of the Heart." Participants agree that contemporary technology does not support the existence of effective satellite lasers capable of harming individuals. They highlight that low Earth orbit satellites may have the potential for such applications, while geostationary satellites would require significantly higher power levels. Additionally, challenges in facial recognition and tracking vehicles through dense environments are acknowledged, emphasizing the limitations of current satellite technology.

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  • Understanding of satellite orbits, specifically low Earth orbit (LEO) and geostationary orbit (GEO).
  • Knowledge of directed energy weapons (DEWs) and their operational requirements.
  • Familiarity with remote sensing technologies and their limitations in adverse weather conditions.
  • Basic principles of facial recognition technology and its challenges in satellite applications.
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  • Research the power requirements for satellite-based directed energy weapons (DEWs).
  • Explore advancements in satellite imaging technology for tracking vehicles and individuals.
  • Investigate the capabilities and limitations of satellite remote sensing through various atmospheric conditions.
  • Learn about the current state of facial recognition technology and its integration with satellite systems.
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This discussion is beneficial for aerospace engineers, defense technology researchers, and professionals in satellite communications and remote sensing who are interested in the practical applications and limitations of satellite technology in military and surveillance contexts.

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Just finished reading Dark rivers of the heart.(SPOILER AHEAD)

Personally i found the ending pretty much irrealistic, i don't think that on contemporary tech level, a satellite laser could do any serious harm to a person.

However satellites that can identify terrorists and even penetrate the atmosphere with ray weapons is a common sf trope.

But what could the power requirements for the later? I guess only low orbit sats could do such things, fire from geo orbit would require even bigger magnitude of power.

I also wonder about the more realistic option of tracking persons and vehicles. As far as i know face recognition is very challenging, either extreme size of telescope is required, or make many many images from different angles and transform them to a higher res image.
But could a vehicle disappear in the wilderness, once it is tracked?
Can sats see through thick clouds without radar?
 
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GTOM said:
Just finished reading Dark rivers of the heart.
I have not read - so I will respond only to what you post. I am not sure what you mean by "contemporary tech level".
GTOM said:
i don't think that on contemporary tech level, a satellite laser could do any serious harm to a person.
Is this stuff in production or just in the lab. Clearly, no such satellites are in orbit now. The devices that are seen in some videos shooting down drones from a couple of miles away, are fairly heavy devices. Still, in some ways, space is more flexible. Sources of vibration are more controllable. Mirrors will not be warped by their supports and 1G of gravity. So a large reflector can be more easily targeted.
As far as the mass of those devices, they could be sent up in pieces - reflector, laser, power storage, solar arrays.
As to whether they could do serious harm to a person, people are pretty fragile. If you can get a few kilowatts on target for a few seconds, that will ruin someones day.
GTOM said:
But what could the power requirements for the later? I guess only low orbit sats could do such things, fire from geo orbit would require even bigger magnitude of power.
Yes, definitely low orbit.
GTOM said:
I also wonder about the more realistic option of tracking persons and vehicles. As far as i know face recognition is very challenging, either extreme size of telescope is required, or make many many images from different angles and transform them to a higher res image.
"Tracking" has limitations from low orbit. You will only have the target within your horizons for a few minutes. So you would need to track from geo-synchronous orbit. I will leave it up to others to determine how large an aperture you would need to track a car-size object from geo orbit.
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But could a vehicle disappear in the wilderness, once it is tracked?
Do you mean traveling under a canopy? Seeing through canopy is a significant challenge. So would shooting a DEW through canopy.
GTOM said:
Can sats see through thick clouds without radar?
I don't believe there are any "non-radar" wavelengths used with satellite remote sensing that can see through a cumulonimbus.
 
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