Seeing the raiders lose makes me smile

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The discussion revolves around participants' feelings towards the Raiders football team, with a focus on their enjoyment or disdain for the team's losses. The conversation includes personal anecdotes, humorous remarks, and critiques of both the team and its fans. The scope is primarily informal and opinion-based, with elements of humor and light-hearted debate.

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  • Some participants express joy at the Raiders losing, regardless of their general interest in football.
  • Others share a general dislike for the Raiders and their fans, citing negative stereotypes and behaviors associated with them.
  • A few participants mention their preference for other teams, such as the Seahawks, and express a desire for them to succeed.
  • There are humorous references to the Raiders' image and fan culture, with some participants making light of the team's reputation.
  • Some participants question the validity of claims regarding Raiders fans, suggesting that such stereotypes are exaggerated or unfounded.
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Participants generally agree on a dislike for the Raiders, but there are multiple competing views regarding the reasons for this sentiment and the validity of stereotypes about their fans. The discussion remains unresolved with varying opinions on the topic.

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I really don't care for football even though I like watching it. I'm also from California.

Now, I was walking by downstairs and the TV was on. The raiders were losing 17-0. For some reason, I couldn't help but smiling and felt my heart warm at the prospects of the raiders losing.

Is there anyone else here in California who doesn't watch football yet still has their day brightened by hearing something bad about the Raiders?
 
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I'm not from California but enjoy seeing the Raiders lose just the same.
 
Raiders is my favourite movie. Those Lost Raiders. With the Ark.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Raiders is my favourite movie. Those Lost Raiders. With the Ark.

FOOTBALL!

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Pengwuino said:
Is there anyone else here in California who doesn't watch football yet still has their day brightened by hearing something bad about the Raiders?

I'm from Colorado and hearing something bad about the raiders definitely brightens my day.

And, by the way, one of the changes for the 2011 NFL season is that 'raiders' is now printed in all lower case letters. While this might seem a strange change to make, it's not nearly as bizarre as the changes in college football, where the Big-12 will now have 10 teams and the Big-10 will now have 12 teams.

And not nearly as strange as people in Florida yelling "We want Orton" whenever Chad Henne throws a pass and people in Colorado yelling "We want Tebow" whenever Kyle Orton throws a pass. But at least there's a little sanity - no one yells, "We want Leinart".
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Raiders is my favourite movie. Those Lost Raiders. With the Ark.

Well, actually, it was the "Ark" that was "Lost." The "Raiders" themselves seemed to be quite geographically aware at most times; at the very least, they were exceptional at following directions. The "Ark" on the other hand was constantly being misplaced. I would hardly call it "Lost" but, still, the lexicography is loose and usage here is not manifestly wrong.

Had the movie been about "The Lost Raiders of the Ark" I think we would have seen a very different story unfold.

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  • #11
Why don't you like the Raiders?

Do you not like the Raiders, or just hate Al Davis? There is a difference.

Though they did just select Terrelle Pryor. I am an avid Raider fan, but Al Davis needs to die already...
 
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khemist said:
Though they did just select Terrelle Pryor.

Interesting choice. He was suspended for 5 games in the NFL before even being drafted - i.e. before he even joined the NFL.

Essentially suspended for trading autographs for tattoos (although the official reason was for 'illegally' circumventing the NFL draft). At about a third of his 2011 salary, those were $110,000 tattoos - and trading autographs for tattoos isn't even against NFL rules.
 
  • #13
I would like to see the Seahawks do well.
 
  • #14
khemist said:
Why don't you like the Raiders?

Do you not like the Raiders, or just hate Al Davis? There is a difference.

Though they did just select Terrelle Pryor. I am an avid Raider fan, but Al Davis needs to die already...

I hate the raiders fans! Beyond statistically 85% of them being criminals, they're so annoying when they lose or win. When they lose, they let everyone know that it was because of A excuse, B excuse, and C excuse, even people that don't give a rats *** about football. Then when they win... well, actually it's been a while, I forgot what they do.
 
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I have never been a fan of team sports, but I have to admit to feeling a bit glad when Steinbrenner's "best team that money can buy" lost individual games or entire series.
 
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turbo said:
I have never been a fan of team sports, but I have to admit to feeling a bit glad when Steinbrenner's "best team that money can buy" lost individual games or entire series.

He wasn't able to buy the Cleveland Indians!

Well, actually, maybe that didn't turn out so well for the Indians, seeing as how they were lousy for another 20 years after he failed to buy them while the Yankees went to the World Series 11 times when Steinbrunner owned them.
 
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Pengwuino said:
I hate the raiders fans! Beyond statistically 85% of them being criminals, they're so annoying when they lose or win. When they lose, they let everyone know that it was because of A excuse, B excuse, and C excuse, even people that don't give a rats *** about football. Then when they win... well, actually it's been a while, I forgot what they do.

I would like to see a citation there.

And of course there are excuses. Every fan for every team makes excuses...

This comes from a raider fan though.
 
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All I have to say is
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khemist said:
I would like to see a citation there.

And of course there are excuses. Every fan for every team makes excuses...

This comes from a raider fan though.

I don't think a citation is needed here. It's just that well known!
 
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khemist said:
I would like to see a citation there.

And of course there are excuses. Every fan for every team makes excuses...

This comes from a raider fan though.

HeliXe's post says it all. The eye patch; the daggers - precisely the type of symbols that appeal to the criminal element.

And if you've ever heard a California valley girl try to talk like a pirate, you'd know that's definitely a crime.

And just look at raiders fans: raiders fans

The mother and child picture is really touching. I'm not sure whether to shed a tear or be totally freaked out. One thing I've noticed about how hard it is to bear being a raiders fan - they have to bring the skeletons of past raiders fans for emotional support.
 
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BobG said:
HeliXe's post says it all. The eye patch; the daggers - precisely the type of symbols that appeal to the criminal element.

And if you've ever heard a California valley girl try to talk like a pirate, you'd know that's definitely a crime.

And just look at raiders fans: raiders fans

Link is broken.

But raider fans are some of the most die hard in sports. Valley girls are in southern cali, so that's a moot point.

I find it funny people here know nothing of sports and still hate the raiders. Raider nation is going to have some haters, I guess!
 
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khemist said:
Link is broken.

Typical raiders fan excuse. :rolleyes:
 
  • #23
khemist said:
I would like to see a citation there.

As already stated, it's so true that it needs no citation. That's like asking me to cite that 1 + 2 = 3. Raiders game parking lots are usually full of buses from state penitentiaries, have you never seen it?
 
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I just saw the link and thought the same thing lol...KISS concert meets Halloween all on a football field :D Awesomeness x 1000 :biggrin:
 
  • #27
Pengwuino said:
I'm a self-taught genius. Why do people think I steal others materials >:(
Rhody :redface: gives himself a massive pengy dope slap... ACK !
 
  • #28
You stole our QB that I actually liked, just needed some fime tuning

Go Redskins! 2 wins for the preseason so far :)
 
  • #29
CosmicEye said:
You stole our QB that I actually liked, just needed some fime tuning

Go Redskins! 2 wins for the preseason so far :)

The Redskins should steal Tim Tebow. He's the most popular third-string quarterback in the league (at least by endorsement deals).
 

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