Not Penrose

[.Scott]

They did it with Richard Feynman and now they're doing it with Sir Roger Penrose - and I find it irritating.

There is now a youtube channel called "The Roger Physics" that uses an AI-generated Roger Penrose to explain Physics topics.

The "Roger" they present never appears as interested or entertained by the subject matter as videos of the actual person. It also has "Roger" using phrases and argument styles very common to AI-generated characters but that I have never seen or read from this Nobel Laureate.

In my first two seconds of watching the video, I was asking myself "Why does he look like that", "Why is he talking that way". It's like a post-stroke Roger Penrose.

The description includes this disclaimer:

This channel uses AI-generated visuals, narration, and educational storytelling for. It is independently created and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or officially connected to Roger Penrose or any institution. All content is made for educational and informational purposes only.

Apparently the author can turn these out pretty quickly. He "joined" in May and he's already got 24 videos posted - averaging 25-30 minutes apiece.

 

[wrobel]

Another devaluation of culture, now via AI.

 

[AlexB23]

They did it with Richard Feynman and now they're doing it with Sir Roger Penrose - and I find it irritating.

There is now a youtube channel called "The Roger Physics" that uses an AI-generated Roger Penrose to explain Physics topics.

The "Roger" they present never appears as interested or entertained by the subject matter as videos of the actual person. It also has "Roger" using phrases and argument styles very common to AI-generated characters but that I have never seen or read from this Nobel Laureate.

In my first two seconds of watching the video, I was asking myself "Why does he look like that", "Why is he talking that way". It's like a post-stroke Roger Penrose.

The description includes this disclaimer:

This channel uses AI-generated visuals, narration, and educational storytelling for. It is independently created and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or officially connected to Roger Penrose or any institution. All content is made for educational and informational purposes only.

Apparently the author can turn these out pretty quickly. He "joined" in May and he's already got 24 videos posted - averaging 25-30 minutes apiece.

Now that is kinda scary. Not a fan of AI generated content on YouTube. Luckily, people are making free open source add-ons for Firefox and Chrome that use crowdsourcing so people can report and block AI channels. I am tempted to download it.

https://github.com/Override92/AiSList

 

[Sagittarius A-Star]

Not Susskind
https://www.youtube.com/@theuniversebeyondthevisible

Not Feynman
https://www.youtube.com/@PhysicsWithFeynman124-e/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@TheFeynmanVerse-k9p
https://www.youtube.com/@ThinkinPhysics1
https://www.youtube.com/@FeynmanReborn/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@TheSumOverHistories-y9k

Related links I posted here are no longer working.

 

[AlexB23]

Not Susskind
https://www.youtube.com/@theuniversebeyondthevisible

Not Feynman
https://www.youtube.com/@PhysicsWithFeynman124-e/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@TheFeynmanVerse-k9p
https://www.youtube.com/@ThinkinPhysics1

Related links I posted here are no longer working.

It looks like the AI blocker add-on is working. Those channels are marked as AI.

 

[Hornbein]

There is also a great deal of fictitious news and history. I trust only channels established before the rise of AI and ignore the rest. AI can be mentioned in the description but most people do not read descriptions. A fake can be produced with one thousandth the effort of the real thing and this wins the battle of quantity.

 

[AlexB23]

The is also a great deal of fictitious news and history. I trust only channels established before the rise of AI and ignore the rest. AI can be mentioned in the description but most people do not read descriptions. A fake can be produced with one thousandth the effort of the real thing and this wins the battle of quantity.

Looks like we need to spread the word of AI blockers. Shame that AI can be used for useful stuff like pulling information from long user manuals, yet people use it for bad.

 

[Hornbein]

It looks like the AI blocker add-on is working. Those channels are marked as AI.

They include AI narrators which almost everyone uses and which I feel are harmless. It's not easy to become a professional-sounding narrator.

I think AI use is a useful thing. The problem is the flood of bad content.

 

[AlexB23]

They include AI narrato
They include AI narrators which almost everyone uses and which I feel are harmless. It's not easy to become a passable narrator.

I think AI use is a useful thing. The problem is the flood of bad content.

Yeah, this flood of bad content needs to be banned. If someone wants AI narration, it should be marked clearly as AI narrated.

 

[Ken Fabian]

The most recent mention of Penrose for me was as a proponent of some kind of (paraphrasing) 'consciousness as a fundamental physical characteristic of our universe' woo. I didn't follow up with any attempts to check if that was the real famous mathematician/physicist or an AI generated simulacra, nor did I check out the content of the claim. Which got me accused of closed-mindedness. Perhaps deservedly in this case.

 

[pines-demon]

It looks like the AI blocker add-on is working. Those channels are marked as AI.

There are AI blockers? what are you using?

 

[BillTre]

Yeah, this flood of bad content needs to be banned. If someone wants AI narration, it should be marked clearly as AI narrated.

Banning will always run into a free speech argument which wlll be hard to win in the US.
An alternative would be either a demerit or a reward system.
Rewards would promote cooperation, Demerits would promote avoidance.

Perhaps setting up a reward system for good content based on criteria of your choice.

 

[Hornbein]

Banning will always run into a free speech argument which wlll be hard to win in the US.
An alternative would be either a demerit or a reward system.
Rewards would promote cooperation, Demerits would promote avoidance.

Perhaps setting up a reward system for good content based on criteria of your choice.

Social media is not a free speech zone. All they have to do is say it "violates" their terms of use.

Youtube has already turned against AI content. I have heard complaints from a number of channels who say they were falsely banned for being AI.

 

[Sagittarius A-Star]

Another problem is, that they spread physical nonsense, for example "Light Doesn't Actually Move | Leonard Susskind Explains".

 

[wrobel]

Science is being co-opted by pop culture:)

 

[PeroK]

Perhaps it's time for a "Not Peter Donis" YouTube channel?

 

[BillTre]

Social media is not a free speech zone. All they have to do is say it "violates" their terms of use.

Youtube has already turned against AI content. I have heard complaints from a number of channels who say they were falsely banned for being AI.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. However, I don't think it will work as well as the labor intensive PF way of doing things.

 

[.Scott]

The most recent mention of Penrose for me was as a proponent of some kind of (paraphrasing) 'consciousness as a fundamental physical characteristic of our universe' woo. I didn't follow up with any attempts to check if that was the real famous mathematician/physicist or an AI generated simulacra, nor did I check out the content of the claim. Which got me accused of closed-mindedness. Perhaps deservedly in this case.

Roger Penrose has not only stated that the hard component of consciousness is basic Physics, he has authored three books on the subject - "The Emperor's New Mind", "Shadows of the Mind", and "Consciousness and the Universe".
What I disliked about the AI-generated video of Penrose explaining consciousness was that it was not based on the text of any of those books. Instead, it was over-simplified AI-generated text that uses phases common to many AI videos. For example, instead of saying "the situation is 'A'", you hear "this isn't 'D', this isn't 'C', this isn't even 'B', [ insert attention-grabbing prepositional phrases ] this will be 'A'".

 

[AlexB23]

There are AI blockers? what are you using?

Well, I linked it. I am using this one to block AI videos.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ai-channel-blocker-for-youtube/

To block AI images, make sure you have Ublock Origin.
https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist