Should a neutrino be moving slightly slower than c?

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In summary, the ICARUS results demonstrate that neutrinos travel at the same speed as light, not faster or slower. The CERN results are believed to be incorrect due to equipment error. Neutrinos are expected to travel slightly slower than light due to their small mass, but this difference may be too small to measure. The MSW effect suggests that neutrinos have some mass, but it is possible that one mass eigenstate could have a mass of 0. The difference in speed between neutrinos and light may be too small to be noticeable with current technology.
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The ICARUS results evidence that neutrino moves at speed, not faster/slower, but same as c.
The CERN results seem to be wrong due to some error in the equipment.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1203/1203.3433.pdf

aren't the neutrinos expected to travel slightly slower than c? (due to slight mass)

or is the mass (velocity) difference too small to be noticeable, by any experiment?

c = speed of light/photon

the photon has zero rest mass. i am assuming that the relativistic mass of the photon is less than that of neutrino.
 
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The MSW effect says that neutrinos have (some) mass...except there's the loop hole that 1 mass eigenstate of the neutrinos could be 0, so there's that. There are some upper bounds on neutrino masses, but they seem to be extremely extremely light.

Neutrinos from SN1987A showed that they basically kept their 3 hour head start on the photons over a distance of ~160k light years! This means they travel EXTREMELY close to the speed of light.

EDIT: I typo'd I should have said 1 mass eigenstate "COULD BE" 0. The MSW effect doesn't say that any of them has to be 0. It does say that not all of them can be 0, however.
 
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You're right, they should. But as you say the difference may be incredibly small, especially if you consider that neutrinos from the 1987 supernova arrived at about the same time as light did (apart from the three hour difference which was due to other factors). So my guess is that the slight lag in speed for the neutrinos may be too small to measure with our current technology.

(BTW, shouldn't this question go into the other neutrino thread?)
 
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lmoh said:
(BTW, shouldn't this question go into the other neutrino thread?)

Where it's already been answered in posts 750 and 751...
 

1. Why is it important to study the speed of neutrinos?

The speed of neutrinos is important because it can help us understand the fundamental laws of physics and the nature of the universe. It can also provide insights into the behavior of particles and their interactions.

2. What is the current understanding of the speed of neutrinos?

According to the theory of relativity, the speed of light (c) is the maximum speed that any particle can travel. However, there have been some experiments that suggest neutrinos may be able to travel slightly slower than the speed of light.

3. What evidence supports the idea that neutrinos may be moving slightly slower than c?

Some experiments, such as the OPERA experiment in 2011, have observed neutrinos arriving at their destination slightly earlier than expected if they were traveling at the speed of light. However, these results have not been replicated and are still subject to further investigation.

4. What are the potential implications if neutrinos are found to be moving slower than c?

If it is confirmed that neutrinos can travel slower than the speed of light, it could challenge the current understanding of the laws of physics and potentially lead to new theories and discoveries. It could also have practical applications in fields such as particle accelerators and space travel.

5. How are scientists currently studying the speed of neutrinos?

Scientists are using a variety of techniques and experiments to study the speed of neutrinos. These include high-energy particle colliders, underground detectors, and observations of neutrinos from cosmic events such as supernovae. The results from these experiments are continuously analyzed and compared to improve our understanding of neutrinos and their speed.

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