Sleeping Duration: Can It Lead to More Productivity?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between sleep duration and productivity, exploring whether adopting unconventional sleep habits can enhance productivity despite potential health risks. Participants reference historical figures like Nikola Tesla and Leonardo da Vinci, while considering the implications of sleep deprivation on mental health and cognitive function.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the reliability of anecdotal claims regarding Tesla's sleep habits and suggest that such information may stem from boastful narratives.
  • Others argue that adequate sleep is crucial for long-term health and productivity, citing the importance of daylight exposure as well.
  • A participant highlights extreme cases of sleep deprivation, such as Fatal Familial Insomnia, to emphasize the potential dangers of insufficient sleep.
  • Some express skepticism about the effectiveness of unconventional sleep schedules, suggesting that if they were beneficial, they would be more widely adopted.
  • One participant shares personal experiences of sleep deprivation, noting its negative impact on cognitive function and emotional stability.
  • Another participant mentions the National Sleep Foundation's recommendation of 7-9 hours of sleep for adults, reinforcing the idea that adequate sleep is necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the effectiveness and reliability of unconventional sleep habits for enhancing productivity. While some advocate for the necessity of adequate sleep, others reference historical figures and their purported sleep patterns, leading to a lack of consensus.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the anecdotal nature of historical claims about sleep patterns and the varying personal experiences regarding sleep deprivation and its effects on productivity and health.

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Hello PF,
I just read in a website that Nicola Tesla had a habit of sleeping at 11PM and starting work at 3 AM. They also mention it led to a mental breakdown at 25.
how much reliable do you think this information is?
And do you think someone can embrace that habit for more productivity, even though it may be harmful ?
There is a lot of scientists and students on this website that i think would wish having more time to follow their passion in.
 
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The information is probably anecdotal and came from Tesla himself.

This website talks about boasts between Tesla and Edison over sleeping time:

https://www.supermemo.com/en/articles/polyphasic

fter a short stint under Edison's umbrella, Nikola Tesla became a bitter rival of his former mentor. We have all heard of the "war of the currents", but Edison and Tesla clashed in another battlefield. They tried to outbid each other in sleeping little. Tesla noted that Edison slept much more than he would want others to believe. That injects a dose of boastful personality to their own reports on how much the great inventors slept. Tesla who could indeed work throughout the night, would often crash for the entire day of sleep after his exploits. He exhibited classic signs of manic creativity, which might have been interrupted by short recuperative naps or long recovery sleep. Otherwise, Tesla was nothing more than a short sleeper. He was too busy with his pursuits to ever think of anything resembling a strict polyphasic schedule. That would be a strait jacket on his flamboyant personality.

All in all, the whole list of polyphasic geniuses seems to be lacking any credible evidence. As such it is probably a child of collective wishful thinking committed by those who would love to add waking hours to their day.
 
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Decent sleep is important, both for productivity and health reasons in the long run. And getting enough daylight is also important for our health.
 
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There aren't nearly enough hours in the day to do everything you wish you could. Adopting strange sleep schedules isn't going to help, if it did, we'd all be doing it by now.

Science may eventually negate some of the need for sleep, but we aren't there yet.

I sleep very little currently. A lot less than I'd like. Prolonged periods like this makes me more far more unagreeable than normal. I'm becoming an old grumpy man to everyone.

If you can, sleep until you aren't tired anymore.
 
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That information has to be unreliable, humans cannot live with so little sleep. Tesla had been taking multiple naps of short duration throughout a day. Leonardo da Vinci had a similar sleeping schedule. He was a very busy man. I think he did much of his journal writing at night by an oil lamp and made his inventions, artwork, and observations during the day.

I don't find it hard to believe that sleep deprivation could trigger a mental breakdown. I have missed sleeping many nights myself. When I am deeply absorbed into something important to me, I focus and cannot let go until it is resolved- a few times that has meant missing sleep. Sometimes, I have no choice but to stay up throughout a night, such as the night before a holiday or birthday party that I've planned. Or exam I need to cram for or project/paper that is incomplete...

However, I don't think having bad sleeping habits is actually super-productive. Cognitive function isn't consistent living that way. Emotional outbursts are more common during periods of little sleep, for me. I can usually function normally, but my mental capacity is seriously hindered to the point that I cannot complete the projects that I do want to work on. Rote memorization and learning is more difficult while living with little sleep. The mathematician Moivre actually predicted his own death because he noticed that he was sleeping less and less over time!
 
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