Solving Diff. Equations without MATLAB/Maple

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The discussion revolves around solving differential equations (DEs) without the use of MATLAB or Maple, as the original poster is unable to access these programs for their assignment. The equations presented include third and fourth-order DEs, which typically require finding characteristic roots for their solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of using software to find roots and question whether it is essential for all the provided DEs. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the material and the requirements for solving the equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on obtaining roots without software, emphasizing the importance of attempting the problems independently. There is a recognition that the original poster may not have fully engaged with the material yet, leading to a mixed exploration of methods and assumptions regarding the need for computational tools.

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The original poster mentions a lack of familiarity with the material and expresses concern about needing software to solve certain DEs, indicating a potential gap in their understanding of the subject matter.

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hey guys,

i have a Diff. equations assignment that requires MATLAB or maple to give me the roots to some DE's in order to solve them but I don't have the programs and can't spend the money on them right now, especially just for 1 assignment. so if you guys can just give me the roots it will help me a ton! the equations are:

y''' + 2y'' = 0

y''''-12y'''+86y''-300y'+625y=0

y'''+(5/6)y''+(1/6)y'=0

y'''+4y''=t^2

Thanks !
 
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You don't need MATLAB to get the characteristic roots to the DE.

Do you understand what is needed ?

Btw we do not give out answers until you have attempted the problem to a reasonable degree.
 
I haven't studied this section yet but my prof told me that we needed to use MATLAB or maple to get the roots, I am not sure if we need MATLAB for all of these DE's but i know for a fact that in order to solve the second DE I would need the roots before hand.
 
The roots are simple to get by mere inspection. Show us what you have done so far.

In MATLAB all you have to do is enter the coefficients of your characteristic polynomial and then use the roots command.
 
If you are looking for a straight answer, without work from your part - just go and use Maple to solve it.

This forum is for persons who are interested in how you get to the answer and not the answer itself.
 
Ok some clarification is needed

I have been lead to believe that one needs to know the roots in order to solve the DE and in order to get these roots you need maple/matlab. I don't have either of these programs and was wondering if someone could give me the roots so I COULD solve it. (meaning you guys wouldn't be just giving me the answer, i'd still have to do work it all out)

I have not learned most of this material yet so some of the DE's i posted may not need maple/matlab in order to get the roots (in which I will solve completely on my own) but for the ones that do require it (the second one, for instance) if i could just get the roots i will do the rest as I would need them in order to do the rest of the problem, no?
 

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