Spanish man first to give birth to twins

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The discussion centers around the case of a Spanish transgender man, Ruben Noe Coronado, who is set to give birth to twins. Participants explore themes related to gender identity, societal perceptions of transgender pregnancy, and personal relationships within this context.

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  • Some participants question whether Ruben, who was born a woman, can be considered a man in the context of his pregnancy.
  • Others express surprise that societal acceptance of transgender individuals may not align with practical realities regarding gender identity and pregnancy.
  • There are inquiries about the personal relationships of transgender individuals who are pregnant, with some participants expressing curiosity about their intimate lives.

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Participants exhibit a range of views on the legitimacy of Ruben's gender identity and the societal implications of his pregnancy. No consensus is reached regarding these topics.

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Discussions reflect varying assumptions about gender identity, societal norms, and personal relationships, which remain unresolved.

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Spanish man in world first as he prepares to give birth to TWINS
By Gerard Couzens
Last updated at 12:46 PM on 22nd March 2009
A Spanish man is set to become the first in the world to give birth to twins.

Transexual Ruben Noe Coronado, 25, is due to become a dad at the end of September.

Ruben, born a woman called Stephanie, will bring the boys up with partner Esperanza Ruiz, 43.

... 'I've gone public with this so people start to see transexual pregnancy as normal.

'But I am thinking of selling the picture everyone's going to want of me looking pregnant.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...-man-world-prepares-birth-TWINS.html?ITO=1490

OK so he's a transsexual and he came with the OEM equipment to master this magic, but still and all ... I'm not sure people are ever going to see this kind of thing as normal ... outside of Jerry Springer audiences.

[Note: The husband is the one on the left. The birth-person is the other one.]
 
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Does 'stephanie' truly qualify as a man?
 
Socially not a problem, but I am surprised that pragmatism overcomes gender identity for these pregnant FtMs!
 
Who's sleeping with these people?
 
neu said:
Who's sleeping with these people?

Themselves?