Star populations by spectral classes and masses

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distribution of star populations in our galaxy, specifically sorted by spectral classes and masses. Participants seek detailed statistical information and reliable sources regarding these classifications, including the percentage of stars within various mass ranges and spectral classes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests specific percentages of stars in the galaxy categorized by spectral classes and masses, indicating a lack of clear sources for this information.
  • Another participant suggests Wikipedia as a resource, claiming it contains relevant data on masses and populations of spectral classes.
  • A different participant expresses frustration with Wikipedia, stating it only provides information for main sequence stars and lacks comprehensive data on mass populations.
  • One participant mentions the Vizier database as a potential source for spectral survey data.
  • Another participant highlights the difficulty in obtaining accurate data due to observational biases, noting that most stars are small red dwarfs that are hard to detect.
  • A question is raised about identifying main sequence stars based on parameters like radius, luminosity, absolute magnitude, spectral class, and surface temperature.
  • Another participant suggests using a Hertzsprung-Russell (HR) diagram to determine if a star is on the main sequence based on its luminosity and effective temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of comprehensive data regarding star populations by spectral classes and masses. There are multiple competing views on the reliability of sources and the challenges in obtaining accurate statistics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in available data, including potential biases in observational methods and the specificity of information provided by sources like Wikipedia. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for more generalized data beyond main sequence stars.

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I need the % of stars in our galaxy, sorted by spectral classes and also by masses. Is there any such information somewhere ?
 
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Of course! There is a wealth of information on this. Wikipedia will spell out for you both the masses and populations of the spectral classes.
 
blkqi said:
Of course! There is a wealth of information on this. Wikipedia will spell out for you both the masses and populations of the spectral classes.

I already searched (especially Wikipedia) and didn't found the % I was looking for. The only document (a picture in some PowerPoint document !) gave the percentage of stars of given masses :

41% for M < 0.25 M_Sol
28% for 0.25 M_Sol < M < 0.5 M_Sol
19% for 0.5 M_Sol < M < 1 M_Sol
8% for 1 M_Sol < M < 2 M_Sol
3% for 2 M_Sol < M < 4 M_Sol
~1% for M > 4 M_Sol

The trouble is that the document isn't clear and precise enough about the source of this data (where does it come from ?)
I also need something similar about the spectral classes.

I simply need more, so this is why I'm asking for some help on this subject.
 
Wikipedia cites their data for masses and populations in the table in section 2 of the Spectral Classification article. If you need a more reliable source, any good astronomy textbook should have the information you need in an appendix.
 
Well, on the wikipedia article :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification

we can find spectral class populations in % but only for the main sequence stars. I need something more general. Also, the Wikipedia article doesn't say anything about populations sorted by masses.
 
Check Vizier, they have spectral survey databases.
 
I think you will have a hard time, as this is poorly known. Most stars are small and dim red dwarfs, and we can't see them well. The best measurements are probably from 2MASS, which was an all-sky survey in the IR. I don't know if anyone has attempted to take the 2MASS data and convert it into the format you're looking for.

Fundamentally the problem is bias - it's easy to see big, bright, blue stars, so counting what you see in the sky gives you a sample that is biased, big, bright and blue.
 
Q : How can we know if a randomly picked star is in the main sequence ?

More precisely, suppose I have the following innformations : Radius, Luminosity, Absolute Magnitude, Spectral class and surface temperature. Is there a simple mathematical procedure to say if it's a main sequence star ?
 
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depending on the limits of main sequence can't that be taken from a HR diagram? L vs Teff will put you somewhere on the plane...
 

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