Stimulus: buy unproductive assets

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In summary: I do with it? I don't need a machine that is worth $10. I need a machine that is worth $20 or $30. So if I'm the winner, I'm getting a machine that is worth less than what I actually need."In summary, the government is looking to purchase unproductive assets from the owners in order to stimulate the economy. This would be done through the purchase of old equipment, as well as property in default. The stimulus would be temporary and targeted, and would involve the destruction of unproductive assets. The government would also subsidize (low interest) debt in order to more quickly replace unproductive assets with new ones. Foreign aid could be part of the plan,
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A type of stimulus that I've thought of is the government buying unproductive/defaulting assets from the owners. That includes out-of-date plant & equipment, as well as property in default.

This kind of stimulus would be "targeted" and "temporary," and no doubt "timely."

Anyone care to comment?
 
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Would you have the government buying or replacing old equipment so that the new equipment could be shipped to China at a huge profit?
 
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No; I am thinking that this would give the U.S. producers the incentive and funds to purchase new technology, which would boost up machine tools, which would spread to the rest of the economy. My assumption is that current level of U.S. tech. exports will more or less continue but that will not provide an extra stimulus to the U.S. economy.
 
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I'm curious as to how this will be paid for.

Isn't this just another form of government trying to redistribute wealth?
 
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falc39 said:
I'm curious as to how this will be paid for.

Isn't this just another form of government trying to redistribute wealth?
Only, in a deliberately productive way.

It has two components:

1. Government seizes unproductive assets, then destroys them.

2. Government pays out cash for replacing these assets with new ones.

Technically 1 and 2 are separable operations, although practically (and legally) they are not.

"2" can be replaced by "government-subsidized (low interest) debt." This, IMO, is a more targeted course of action than the Fed lowering the interest rates for everyone.
 
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Maybe foreign aid could be part of your plan. The government notes what needy country needs what kind of equipment and posts "want ads" for such used equipment. They donate it abroad as part of the foreign aid program so this is more or less financially neutral. But it facilitates the process of upgrading for businesses.
 
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EnumaElish said:
No; I am thinking that this would give the U.S. producers the incentive and funds to purchase new technology, which would boost up machine tools, which would spread to the rest of the economy.
You need a beaurocracy for that, i.e. setting the criteria for said assistance, installing an assessment and distribution mechanism(s), allocating budget, etc. Also, you'd have to set some sort of regulation on the market, making sure no one is cheating. At the end of the day, you'd probably end up with either a handout for businesses with clever accountants, a pricey beaurocracy, or both.
 
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EnumaElish said:
A type of stimulus that I've thought of is the government buying unproductive/defaulting assets from the owners. That includes out-of-date plant & equipment, as well as property in default.

This kind of stimulus would be "targeted" and "temporary," and no doubt "timely."

Anyone care to comment?
When France the UK and Italy introduced a capital grant scheme to allow industries to modernise the US gov't introduced countervailing duty charges to even the playing field for their own domestic producers. I presume the WTO has this covered.
 
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The EPA sets environmental standards and congress creates environmental legislation. For example, a car manufacturer may be forced to put in a new EGR system because of a new standard and a piece of legislation to go along with it. The EGR stinks, costs constumers and hurts the manufacturer because no one wants to by his cars. The government has just purchased unproductive assets. But in the long run, the EGR becomes better and the manufacturer benifits.
 
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Yonoz said:
You need a beaurocracy for that, i.e. setting the criteria for said assistance, installing an assessment and distribution mechanism(s), allocating budget, etc. Also, you'd have to set some sort of regulation on the market, making sure no one is cheating. At the end of the day, you'd probably end up with either a handout for businesses with clever accountants, a pricey beaurocracy, or both.
Not necessarily. All depends on the cleverness of the mechanism. Here is an example:

Say there are N manufacturers (of a certain product). Each manufacturer has a machine associated with a certain present value (PV), a function of the future profits that the machine can generate. Suppose the PV's are randomly distributed between $0 and $100.

A government official invites these N manufacturers to a meeting. In the meeting, the official makes the following announcement: "We ask each of you to write on a piece of paper your name and the value of your machine. We will collect these from you and rank these numbers in descending order (from the highest to the lowest). Once I have ranked these N numbers, I will buy the least productive machine and pay its owner the next highest value that anyone has given to me."

Question: what number would you have written next to your name?

I would have written the exact value of my machine. Why? Suppose my machine is worth $10. I'd scratch my head and think: "There is a chance that mine is the least productive machine here, if so I could be the winner. Let me see... I can write down $10.5. Will that make me richer than writing down $10? If the next highest value is $11, no. But if the next highest value is $10.25 then I'd lose. So I gain nothing but can lose. Therefore I am not going to write anything higher than $10." Then I'd think: "Let me see the other way around. What if I wrote $9.5? If the next highest value is $11, I'd still get paid $11 had I written $10. But there is a chance that the next highest value is $9.75. Then I'd have sold a machine worth $10 for the price of $9.75. Again, I don't gain anything but open myself up for a loss. Therefore I am not going to write anything less than $10, either."

I am not saying that it is the only or the best way that would accomplish the objective, but it is one way that does not need a lot of red tape and paperwork.
 
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What is meant by "stimulus: buy unproductive assets"?

Stimulus: buy unproductive assets refers to a government or central bank policy of purchasing unproductive assets, such as stocks or bonds, in order to stimulate the economy.

Why would a government or central bank want to buy unproductive assets?

Buying unproductive assets can help to inject money into the economy and stimulate economic growth. This can be especially helpful during times of economic downturn or recession.

How does buying unproductive assets stimulate the economy?

When a government or central bank buys unproductive assets, it increases the demand for these assets, which can drive up their prices. This can have a ripple effect, as the individuals or companies that sold the assets may then have more money to spend, which can boost consumer spending and business investment.

What are some examples of unproductive assets that may be bought as part of a stimulus?

Examples of unproductive assets that may be bought as part of a stimulus include stocks, bonds, and real estate properties. These assets are considered unproductive because they do not directly contribute to the production of goods and services.

Are there any potential risks or downsides to buying unproductive assets as a stimulus?

While buying unproductive assets can have a positive impact on the economy, it also carries some risks. For example, if the assets purchased decline in value, this can lead to financial losses for the government or central bank. Additionally, there is the risk of creating asset bubbles, where the prices of these assets become artificially inflated.

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