Stochastics mechanics and early Universe

In summary, Stochastic Mechanics (SM) is a self-consistent framework that can answer all questions and resolve paradoxes within its own framework. It views macroscopic events as atomic and all other components, such as fields, particles, and virtual particles, as purely mathematical tools to calculate correlations between these events. However, the first moments of our universe are beyond the scope of SM, as they require a cooling down period for the existence of systems with memory. SM also suggests that nature is random and provides a way to calculate these random correlations through QM. It emphasizes the idea of "shut up and calculate," where as long as the formulas align with experimental results, there is no need for further speculation.
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Dmitry67
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For a long time I was thinking that even SM has lack of deep philosophic insight, it is self-consistent and, within its own framework, can answer all questions, making all paradoxes non-issues. As a reminder, in SM macroscopic events are atomic, while all other stuff (fields, real particles, virtual particles) are ”just math” to calculate the correlation between the macroscopic events.

But what’s about the very early universe? When the very first macroscopic event did occur? Not sooner than the very first system with some sort of ‘memory’ was created. But to allow the existence of such systems, Universe must cool down enough so some systems will be away from the thermal equilibrium.

So the first seconds, minutes, and may be even years of our Universe is beyond the scope of SM.
 
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Dmitry67 said:
For a long time I was thinking that even SM has lack of deep philosophic insight, it is self-consistent and, within its own framework, can answer all questions, making all paradoxes non-issues. As a reminder, in SM macroscopic events are atomic, while all other stuff (fields, real particles, virtual particles) are ”just math” to calculate the correlation between the macroscopic events.

But what’s about the very early universe? When the very first macroscopic event did occur? Not sooner than the very first system with some sort of ‘memory’ was created. But to allow the existence of such systems, Universe must cool down enough so some systems will be away from the thermal equilibrium.

So the first seconds, minutes, and may be even years of our Universe is beyond the scope of SM.

Can you clarify what you mean by stochastic mechanics?
 
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Strangely enough, there is almost no informtion in Wiki.
So I provide my understanding:

1. Macroscopic events and measurements are basic, like the axioms. You can't decompose the macroscopic event into microscopic subevents. The whole world is just a network of macroscopic events/measurements/observations.
2. nature is random.
3. QM provides a way to calculate the correlations (probabilities) of the events. It is just a math.

In SM wavefunction, virtual particles, real particles are not real. They are just math which explain macroscopic phenomena (like 'particle' tracks in the camera).

For example, EPR nonlocality in SM view is simple: QM gives a formula for a correlation of the outcomes observed by Alice and Bob. That's it, and that's enough. All speculation about 'wavefunction', 'hidden properties', locality and nonlocality does not make any sense in SM framework: as soon as formulas are in agreement with the experimental results, scientist is satisfied. So effectively it is a more detailed description of "Shut up and calculate".
 

1. What is Stochastic Mechanics?

Stochastic mechanics is a branch of physics that deals with systems that exhibit random behavior. It is based on the principles of probability and statistics, and is used to model and predict the behavior of physical systems at the microscopic level.

2. How does Stochastic Mechanics relate to the early Universe?

In the early Universe, the laws of classical mechanics break down and the behavior of particles becomes stochastic due to the extreme conditions. Stochastic mechanics is used to study the dynamics of the early Universe and understand how structures, such as galaxies, formed from the random fluctuations in the distribution of matter.

3. What are the main theories in Stochastic Mechanics?

The main theories in Stochastic Mechanics include the Langevin equation, which describes the motion of particles subject to random forces, and the Fokker-Planck equation, which describes the probability distribution of particles in a system.

4. What are the implications of Stochastic Mechanics for the Big Bang theory?

Stochastic Mechanics plays a crucial role in understanding the initial conditions of the Big Bang and the subsequent evolution of the early Universe. It helps explain how the small quantum fluctuations in the early Universe gave rise to the large-scale structures we see today.

5. How is Stochastic Mechanics being studied and tested in relation to the early Universe?

Stochastic Mechanics is being studied and tested through various experiments and observations, such as the cosmic microwave background radiation and the Large Hadron Collider. These experiments provide valuable data that can be used to test the predictions of Stochastic Mechanics and refine our understanding of the early Universe.

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