I Strange Hamiltonian of two particles on the surface of a sphere

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The discussion centers on the Hamiltonian for two identical spin-1/2 particles constrained to the surface of a sphere, which appears complex compared to the simpler case of spinless particles. The rewritten Hamiltonian includes terms for both orbital and spin angular momentum, raising questions about its validity and the absence of particle interactions. Participants suggest separating the Hamiltonian into distinct parts to facilitate finding eigenvalues, while noting the infinite number of states due to unbounded angular momentum. The separation of spin and orbital angular momentum allows for the identification of singlet and triplet states, adhering to the Pauli exclusion principle. Overall, the complexity of the Hamiltonian and the method for determining eigenvalues are key points of discussion.
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I have a problem with this Hamiltonian: two identical particles of mass ##m## and spin half are constrained to move on the surface of a sphere of radius ##R##. Their Hamiltonian is ##H=\frac{1}{2}mR^2(L_1^2+L_2^2+\frac{1}{2}L_1L_2+\frac{1}{2}S_1S_2)##. By introducing the two operators
##L=L_1+L_2## and ##S=S_1+S_2## I was able to rewrite the Hamiltonian as: ##H=\frac{1}{8}mR^2(3L_1^2+3L_2^2+L^2+S^2-\frac{3}{2}\hbar^2)## this looks to me very strange since the Hamiltonian for two spinless particles on the surface of a sphere is ##H=\frac{L_1^2+L_2^2}{2mR^2}## so how can this be the Hamiltonian of two particles on the surface of a sphere?

And how can I find the eigenvalues of this Hamiltonian? For the resolution I thought I can separate the Hamiltonian into four parts: ##H_1=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L_1^2##, ##H_2=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L_2^2##, ##H_3=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L^2##, ##H_4=\frac{1}{8}mr^2S^2-\frac{3}{16}\hbar^2mR^2## but still I don't know how to go on.
 
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Salmone said:
this looks to me very strange since the Hamiltonian for two spinless particles on the surface of a sphere is ##H=\frac{L_1^2+L_2^2}{2mR^2}## so how can this be the Hamiltonian of two particles on the surface of a sphere?
This Hamiltonian doesn't include any interaction between the particles. The other one clearly does.

Salmone said:
And how can I find the eigenvalues of this Hamiltonian? For the resolution I thought I can separate the Hamiltonian into four parts: ##H_1=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L_1^2##, ##H_2=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L_2^2##, ##H_3=\frac{3}{8}mR^2L^2##, ##H_4=\frac{1}{8}mr^2S^2-\frac{3}{16}\hbar^2mR^2## but still I don't know how to go on.
There are an infinite number of states, as ##l_1## and ##l_2## are unbounded. You can separate spin from orbital angular momentum, resulting in the usual singlet and triplet states. Then you can find orbital eigenstates for each value of ##L## starting at 0. Make sure that you only consider orbital + spin combinations that satisfy the Pauli principle.
 
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