Superposition and entanglement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between superposition and entanglement in quantum mechanics. Participants explore how entanglement differs from other forms of superposition, particularly in the context of single particles and their properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that entanglement is a type of superposition, questioning how it differs from other superpositions, such as a photon being in a superposition of all possible paths.
  • Others argue that entanglement requires a system to be divided into two parts, where the whole system's state cannot be expressed as a product of the states of each part, but rather as a superposition of products.
  • A participant suggests that a single indivisible particle could be in a superposition of its own spin states, raising the question of whether such a particle must always be in some form of superposition regarding its properties.
  • Some participants assert that a single particle cannot be entangled if it has no constituent parts, although they acknowledge potential subtleties in this understanding.
  • One participant provides an example of the Stern-Gerlach experiment to illustrate that single particles can exhibit entanglement between spin and position, contingent on compatible observables.
  • Another participant questions whether the in-homogeneous magnetic field in the Stern-Gerlach experiment is responsible for entangling spin and position, and whether polarizers can also create such entanglement.
  • A later reply clarifies that the magnetic field does indeed entangle spin and position, while polarizers do not create entanglement but rather collapse superpositions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of entanglement, particularly regarding single particles and the role of measurements. There is no consensus on whether a single indivisible particle can be entangled or if it must always be in a superposition.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions touch on the complexities of defining particle properties and the implications of measurements, indicating that the understanding of entanglement and superposition may depend on specific experimental contexts and interpretations.

San K
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Entanglement is a type/product of superposition.

How is entanglement different from other kinds of superposition?...such as when a photon is a superposition of all possible paths/locations
 
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Any quantum system, even a singe indivisble particle can be in a superposition.

Entanglement requires that the system can be divided into two parts. The two parts are entangled if the state of the whole system cannot be written as a product of the state of each part (ie. it must be written as a superposition of products).

One way to determine if the two parts are entangled is by the entanglement entropy of the reduced density matrix of one part. http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/people/JohnCardy/seminars/born1.pdf
 
atyy said:
Any quantum system, even a singe indivisble particle can be in a superposition.

Entanglement requires that the system can be divided into two parts. The two parts are entangled if the state of the whole system cannot be written as a product of the state of each part (ie. it must be written as a superposition of products).

One way to determine if the two parts are entangled is by the entanglement entropy of the reduced density matrix of one part. http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/people/JohnCardy/seminars/born1.pdf

Well answered atyy.

what could a single indivisible particle be in a superposition with? ...it's own spin states?

Would a single indivisible particle, invariably, have to be in some sort of superposition, at all times, on some of its properties?
 
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You can also have entanglement for single particles. An example is the Stern-Gerlach experiment, where spin and position get entangled so that detecting the particle at a certain position tells you its spin.

I would say entanglement is possible if you have compatible observables. Two observables A and B are compatible, if a basis of common eigenstates exists for them. So there is a complete set of states, where a measurement of A doesn't change the outcome of a subsequent B measurement. So you can change the values for A independent of B. Note that entangled states are exactly the states which don't have this property. The criterion is that states with this property exist, not that all states have it.

For a single particle, position and spin (projection) are compatible. A particle with a fixed spin projection can be at any position and vice versa. Position and momentum are not compatible because the position wavefunction ψ(x) restricts the possible values of the momentum.

For a composite system, all observables which involve a measurement on only one of the parts are compatible. So if we have two particles, we can entangle all single particle observables (position, momentum, spin, ...) of one particle with all single particle observables of the other.
 
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Good informative post kith.

kith said:
You can also have entanglement for single particles. An example is the Stern-Gerlach experiment, where spin and position get entangled so that detecting the particle at a certain position tells you its spin..

I browsed through the Stern-Gerlach experiment.

Is the in-homogeneous field used to entangle spin and position?

What percentage gets entangled?

Or is spin and position already entangled?... to being with

on a separate note:

Both the Stern Gerlach (Magnetic field) and an experiment with polarizers:

are not merely selectors/filters but actually alter the state of the photon/electron.

Can polarizers also cause spin and position entanglement?
 
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San K said:
Is the in-homogeneous field used to entangle spin and position?
Yes.

San K said:
Or is spin and position already entangled?
No. Initially, you have only one beam, so a position measurement doesn't tell you anything. After the interaction with the magnetic field, you have two beams with perfect correlations between spin projection and position.

San K said:
Can polarizers also cause spin and position entanglement?
No. A polarizer simply takes a superposition and collapses it. A SG apparatus doesn't need to cause collapse. If you don't block the beams, you can perform further experiments with the entangled final state. In other words, it is not the magnetic field which "measures" the system but the optional subsequent position measurement.

Also the very concept of photon position is a notoriously troublesome one.
 
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