Surprising Costs of Publishing a Paper with Nature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the costs associated with publishing papers in the journal Nature, including the financial implications for authors and the general practices of academic publishing. Participants explore the fees for publication, the accessibility of journals, and the differences between publishing articles and letters.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses surprise at the existence of publication fees, specifically mentioning a cost of $3000 for accepted papers in Nature.
  • Another participant notes that many journals charge authors for publication, indicating a shift from traditional funding models based on membership dues and library subscriptions.
  • Concerns are raised about the visibility of published papers, with one participant arguing that papers in Nature may not be widely read despite the journal's high impact factor.
  • A later reply clarifies that letters to the editor do not incur costs, contrasting this with the fees for publishing full papers.
  • It is mentioned that publication costs can vary based on factors such as color figures and the use of specific submission templates, and that many research grants cover these costs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of publication fees, with some arguing that the costs are justified by the journal's reputation and accessibility, while others question the value of publishing in such journals given the financial burden.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that publication practices and costs can vary significantly across different journals, and that the financial aspects of publishing are influenced by factors such as institutional support and funding availability.

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How much do you have to pay if you want to publish a paper or send a letter to readers on Nature ?

Please don't laugh at me, I truly never thought authors had to pay when they want to publish their papers till that day...:blushing:
Thanks
 
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I couldn't find the price they put up somewhere at their homepage, that's why..
 
http://www.nature.com/msb/about/oa.html

It...it... :eek: $3000 :eek: per ONE accepted paper, not $30.
 
Dear Dr said:
http://www.nature.com/msb/about/oa.html

It...it... :eek: $3000 :eek: per ONE accepted paper, not $30.

Not for everyone though. Read it clearly.
 
There are more other journals for you to submit, nature mainly gets money from both sides: readers and authors to self-grow.
Mags are published weekly and your name is just there for a week among a bunch of rigorous authors, truth is that your paper can't even be read.

But hey, if you are rich, give me $3000 a week, I sure flatter you to the sky. Or you should hire someone working in news, infor corp to spread fame for you, I DO BELIEVE THIS WAY SHOULD BE BETTER THAN BEING A JERK FOR A PIECE OF PAPER.

DO YOU SEE THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AT THE END OF EACH PAPER, IF THERE ARE NO SUCH SPONSORS, ONLY IDIOTS WOULD PAY TO GET SUCH FAME FROM DAT JOURNAL
 
Drimar said:
There are more other journals for you to submit, nature mainly gets money from both sides: readers and authors to self-grow.
Mags are published weekly and your name is just there for a week among a bunch of rigorous authors, truth is that your paper can't even be read.

But hey, if you are rich, give me $3000 a week, I sure flatter you to the sky. Or you should hire someone working in news, infor corp to spread fame for you, I DO BELIEVE THIS WAY SHOULD BE BETTER THAN BEING A JERK FOR A PIECE OF PAPER.

DO YOU SEE THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AT THE END OF EACH PAPER, IF THERE ARE NO SUCH SPONSORS, ONLY IDIOTS WOULD PAY TO GET SUCH FAME FROM DAT JOURNAL

What are you talking about? Almost all journals nowadays have author page charges. Long gone are the days of membership dues to scientific societies and library subscriptions being able to cover the costs of publication. In most journals, it's not a flat fee per article, but rather a fee per page, plus additional charges for printing figures in color.

Paying doesn't get you around peer review, and you only pay if your paper is accepted and actually published.

Why would you think that nobody would see the article? Nature is a highly respected journal and has a very high impact factor, which means a lot of other people cite the works in that journal, indirectly indicating that a lot of other people are reading that journal. Nature and Science are the two journals that are also most often accessible to the general public as well, because even small public libraries will have subscriptions to those two journals when they don't often have subscriptions to other journals. For most other journals, you have to go to a university library or have your own personal subscription. So, that means your work is not only accessible to the specialists in your field, but to the general public as well, if you publish in that journal.
 
Dear Dr said:
How much do you have to pay if you want to publish a paper or send a letter to readers on Nature ?

Please don't laugh at me, I truly never thought authors had to pay when they want to publish their papers till that day...:blushing:
Thanks

Take note that if you are writing a LETTER, as into respond or rebutt a paper or article published in Nature, Science, PRL, etc... that costs NOTHING. It doesn't mean that it will be published because these journals get crank letters all the time, but if it does get accepted, there's no cost to you.

Publishing a paper is different! Whether you can afford to pay for it or not is besides the point. These are STILL peer-reviewed journals. Only after you have managed to get pass the editors, and then are approved by the referees, then your paper will be accepted for publication. Each journal has different policy and different rates. If you require color pictures/graphs, that will cost more per page than simply black&white. If you use their template and submit electronically, this can reduce the publishing cost charged to you. For Physical Review journals, while they do send you publishing costs, your paper will STILL be published even if you can't afford it!

Most research grants include an amount of money set aside for publication costs. So it is seldom that an accepted paper does not pay for such costs.

Zz.
 

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