The Golden Wiener Award for Most Shocking Misidentification: Who Won?

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The discussion revolves around the nomination of individuals for the "Golden Wiener Award" based on perceived misidentifications or controversial actions. Participants share their views on political figures and media personalities, with a focus on their actions and statements that have sparked debate. The scope includes political commentary and personal opinions rather than formal analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant nominates Sen. Arlen Specter for redefining "moderate" negatively, citing his political actions as evidence.
  • Another participant questions the characterization of Specter as a moderate and requests sources for the claims made.
  • A different participant argues that finding a source for Specter's alleged redefinition of "moderate" may be difficult due to the nature of media reporting.
  • Concerns are raised about Specter's support for changing the Constitution to allow Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for President, with mixed reactions to this point.
  • Lou Dobbs and Bill O'Reilly are nominated by multiple participants for their controversial media presence, with expressions of disdain for their commentary.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their previous statements regarding Specter, indicating a potential change in perspective.
  • Another participant corrects themselves regarding a previous claim about Specter, acknowledging confusion with another senator's actions related to the NSA scandal.

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Participants express differing views on the actions and characterizations of Sen. Arlen Specter and other nominees, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

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Some statements rely on personal interpretations of political actions and media portrayals, with participants acknowledging their own uncertainties and corrections regarding earlier claims.

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Any and all wieners are eligible [except PF wieners of course :rolleyes: ].

I nominate:

Sen. Arlen Specter; for redefining "moderate" to mean spineless and wishy-washy.

And though my heart goes out to all involved, I have to nominate the county coroner who identified the wrong girl as dead in an auto accident.

VanRyn and Cerak, now 19, were in a van that collided with a tractor-trailer. The coroner's office mistakenly told the families of the two blond college students that Cerak was dead and VanRyn in a coma.

VanRyn's family stayed at Cerak's bedside for weeks, not realizing the young woman was not their daughter until after she regained consciousness. The mix-up was discovered last week. [continued]
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/3944820.html
 
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So uhm... can we see the pictures of the bodies the coroner received so that we can make the same judgement you did?
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Sen. Arlen Specter; for redefining "moderate" to mean spineless and wishy-washy.

Can you source this? It doesn't sound like Arlen at all. He's a moderate himself, for that matter.
 
I don't think the NY times is going to report "leading congressmen redefines 'moderate'"... so i think you'll have some problems finding a source
 
My comments about Specter covers an array of sins, not the least of which was to try to support changing the Constitution in order to get Arnold S. elected President.

His backstepping on issues of the government spying on citizens is his latest offense.

Btw Pengwuin man, I too hated linear algebra until about the last couple of weeks of the quarter. How are you doing... or do we need to give you a Golden Wiener?
 
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For News I nominate:

Lou Dobbs and Bill Oreilly

(excuse me for one second guys, BARFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
 
I think i can take the silver wiener award on that subject. Someday ill pass this course... someday...

and now off to jury duty... so if anyone talks to me today, expect to be shot.
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
For News I nominate:

Lou Dobbs and Bill Oreilly

(excuse me for one second guys, BARFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)

:smile: :smile: :smile:

A rant a day; that's all we ask!

I they're great as long as they agree with me.
 
uh oh, I may have to eat my words on Specter...and gladly!
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
His backstepping on issues of the government spying on citizens is his latest offense.

You're mixed up on your senators. Arlen is the most vocal Republican critic of the NSA scandal, perhaps even the most vocal critic from either party (admit it, the Democrats are no louder than purring kittens):

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/05/p...296795600&en=54c9b35556530737&ei=5088&partner
WASHINGTON, Feb. 5 — The Republican who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee said today that he believed the Bush administration had violated the law with its warrantless surveillance program and that its legal justifications for the program were "strained and unrealistic."

The program "is in flat violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act," said the chairman, Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who will open committee hearings on Monday.
 
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I don't have anyone mixed up. Note that tough talk isn't doing anything.

Until today he was washing out, but it seems that Specter if finally doing something - today's letter to the WH.

He still supported changing the Constitution for Arnold though...
 
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Specter is the guy I rest the shattered remains of my hopes on.

As for this:
He still supported changing the Constitution for Arnold though...
...you don't mean that last bit, do you?

I nominate O'Reilly. But I think he'd skip on grounds of insanity.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
...you don't mean that last bit, do you?

Yes, he was right up front. I was shocked!

Ayeeeee, I just checked and it was Hatch, not Specter. I was wrong about that...maybe there is hope...