The Many TOE's Theory: Examining the Possibilities

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The discussion centers on the concept of a Theory of Everything (TOE) in physics, proposing that rather than a singular TOE, there may exist an infinite number of TOEs. Participants argue that choosing among these theories would likely rely on principles such as simplicity and computational ease, as suggested by Occam's razor. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of collecting specific data to differentiate valid TOEs from false ones, highlighting the scientific method's reliance on data to resolve equations.

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How do we know the 'EVERYTHING' is any particular way?
Physicists search for explanations and a theory of everything, but how do we know that the 'everything' is any particular way? What if there is no ONE theory of everything. What if there is an infinite number of TOE's that can be shown to exist? How would we choose among them? For example what if the universe was made up of ideas, and even that! is itself an idea? What then?
 
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fractalzen said:
Summary: How do we know the 'EVERYTHING' is any particular way?

What if there is an infinite number of TOE's that can be shown to exist? How would we choose among them?
Probably we would pick the simplest. Either that or the easiest to compute.
 
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What if there is an infinite number of TOE's that can be shown to exist?
One TOE would be nice, beyond that, you would need to collect more specific data to eliminate the false TOEs. Meanwhile, Occam's razor keeps it simple.

If you have more equations than data, you must eliminate redundant equations, or gather more data to resolve a unique solution. That is the way of science.
 
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fractalzen said:
Summary: How do we know the 'EVERYTHING' is any particular way?

Physicists search for explanations and a theory of everything, but how do we know that the 'everything' is any particular way? What if there is no ONE theory of everything. What if there is an infinite number of TOE's that can be shown to exist? How would we choose among them? For example what if the universe was made up of ideas, and even that! is itself an idea? What then?
The theory that there are in fact many explanations would be "the" theory of everything.
 
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