The Stable Universe: Human/Alien Intelligence & Time Travel Possibilities

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The discussion centers on the concept of the universe existing in two stable states: a void with no natural phenomena and an intelligent universe where intelligence brings itself into existence. Participants argue that since the universe is real, the second state is valid, suggesting that human and alien intelligence played a role in its creation. This premise leads to the assertion that time travel may eventually be possible. The debate highlights contrasting views on the necessity of intelligence for the universe's existence.

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Leaving all knowledge aside for the moment...

There seems to be two stable states for the universe

1. Void. There is no universe because there's no natural phenomena to bring it into existence.

2. An intelligent universe. Here the intelligence has devised a way of bringing itself into existence. This 'way' manifests itself as the universe as we know it. Hence, future scientists are the intelligence.

As we know the universe is real, therefore state 2 rules. Human/Alien intelligence acted as the force that brought the universe into existence.

State 2 implies time travel will one day be possible.

Causal


Does anybody have any comment on the above? Thanking you in advance.

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Causal said:
1. Void. There is no universe because there's no natural phenomena to bring it into existence.

But there is a universe. The void is part of the universe. The universe may be the natural phenomena that brought it into existence.

2. An intelligent universe. Here the intelligence has devised a way of bringing itself into existence. This 'way' manifests itself as the universe as we know it. Hence, future scientists are the intelligence.

That's just ludicrous in my opinion. A universe with "intelligence"? You question all these phenomenas because you exist. The universe doesn't have to possesses "intelligence" to provide the right conditions for living organisms to start growing.

As we know the universe is real, therefore state 2 rules. Human/Alien intelligence acted as the force that brought the universe into existence.

Whatever created the universe cannot create its own self. Its perpetual I'm afraid, it goes on and on, hence why I believe that everything is reduced to nothing.
 

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