The way we see the world is what we want

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In summary, the conversation discusses how the discovery that the Earth orbits the sun and is not the center of the universe challenged people's beliefs and ego. It also touches on the idea of aliens and how their existence could potentially diminish the importance of humanity. The conversation concludes by questioning the benefits of believing in a vast and superior alien civilization.
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A few hundred years ago some astronomers where proving that the Earth goes around the sun and we are not at the center of the universe, many people didn't like this, but why?
The reason is because deep down inside the ego didn't want to hear it, it wanted to continue believing we are truly important and special. It's the same reason people buy a bigger house or car than their neighbors- to feed their ego even if it is an illusion they still need it, but how much of the world is clouded by our ego and emotions are hinden motives? Is it such a bad thing? Does anyone want to add to this?

Lets suppose aliens exist, the universe is infinite and been going on forever and gives rise to self-aware beings, then there must be civilizations vastly superior to ours, so much so that our planet is a hole in the backyard, our technology our understanding and ability to think are all incredibly worthless by comparison and insignificant, would anyone want to believe this? What is to be gained in seeing it this way?
 
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jammieg said:
A few hundred years ago some astronomers where proving that the Earth goes around the sun and we are not at the center of the universe, many people didn't like this, but why?
The reason is because deep down inside the ego didn't want to hear it, it wanted to continue believing we are truly important and special. It's the same reason people buy a bigger house or car than their neighbors- to feed their ego even if it is an illusion they still need it, but how much of the world is clouded by our ego and emotions are hinden motives? Is it such a bad thing? Does anyone want to add to this?

Lets suppose aliens exist, the universe is infinite and been going on forever and gives rise to self-aware beings, then there must be civilizations vastly superior to ours, so much so that our planet is a hole in the backyard, our technology our understanding and ability to think are all incredibly worthless by comparison and insignificant, would anyone want to believe this? What is to be gained in seeing it this way?

Well there's some quite popular science fiction that has this theme. Hitchhiker's Guide comes to mind right away. So I don't think the public mind is THAT opposed to the meme.
 
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jammieg said:
A few hundred years ago some astronomers where proving that the Earth goes around the sun and we are not at the center of the universe, many people didn't like this, but why?
The reason is because deep down inside the ego didn't want to hear it, it wanted to continue believing we are truly important and special. It's the same reason people buy a bigger house or car than their neighbors- to feed their ego even if it is an illusion they still need it, but how much of the world is clouded by our ego and emotions are hinden motives? Is it such a bad thing? Does anyone want to add to this?

Lets suppose aliens exist, the universe is infinite and been going on forever and gives rise to self-aware beings, then there must be civilizations vastly superior to ours, so much so that our planet is a hole in the backyard, our technology our understanding and ability to think are all incredibly worthless by comparison and insignificant, would anyone want to believe this? What is to be gained in seeing it this way?


It is important to differentiate "fact" from "fiction" being fiction is what people want to see. Science is up for interpretations, people can really accept whatever they want; but they need to realize the tangible truth. I believe the human mind does help to shape "reality" but I do not think its ego determines the entire universe. And yes, the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a good example.

It is very possible that aliens exist. But to say they are "vastly superior than us" seems egotiscal. I mean if life were found on Europa, it wouldn't be a massive civilization with submarines and species that have built space ships. I am not denoucning the possible status of aliens, but it may be welly possible that they are still developing too. So, I'm not sure if someone would want to believe that necessarily.
 

What does it mean that "the way we see the world is what we want"?

This phrase means that our perceptions of the world are influenced by our desires and beliefs. We tend to interpret the world in a way that aligns with what we want to see or believe, rather than objectively.

Is this statement supported by scientific evidence?

Yes, there is evidence from psychology and neuroscience that our perceptions can be biased by our desires and beliefs. For example, confirmation bias is a well-documented phenomenon where we tend to seek out information that confirms our existing beliefs and ignore information that contradicts them.

Can our perceptions be changed by our desires and beliefs?

Yes, our perceptions can be influenced by our desires and beliefs, but they are not the only factors at play. Our perceptions are also affected by external factors, such as our environment and past experiences. Additionally, our brains have the ability to adapt and change, so our perceptions can also be altered by new experiences and information.

How does this concept relate to the concept of reality?

Perception and reality are two separate concepts. Our perceptions may not always align with reality, as they can be influenced by our desires and beliefs. However, this does not mean that our perceptions are completely disconnected from reality. Our perceptions are still based on the information collected by our senses, but they may be filtered or biased by our desires and beliefs.

How can we overcome the influence of our desires and beliefs on our perceptions?

Being aware of our biases and actively seeking out diverse perspectives can help us overcome the influence of our desires and beliefs on our perceptions. It is also important to critically evaluate information and be open to changing our perceptions based on new evidence. Engaging in critical thinking and being open-minded can help us see the world more objectively.

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