Truly Imaginative Yet Solid Science Fiction

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The discussion revolves around the theme of imaginative science fiction, particularly focusing on works that push the boundaries of creativity and scientific plausibility. Participants share their experiences with science fiction literature, highlighting stories that stand out for their originality and speculative ideas, as well as contrasting them with more conventional narratives.

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  • One participant expresses frustration with traditional science fiction, noting that many alien species are based on known Earth animals and social systems often mirror historical empires.
  • Another participant recalls a short story about robotic beings sent to Jupiter, which highlights the creativity of older sci-fi narratives that were less constrained by current scientific understanding.
  • A later reply identifies the story as "Victory Unintentional" by Isaac Asimov, emphasizing its clever plot and historical context.
  • Participants mention works by Alastair Reynolds that explore space opera without faster-than-light travel, suggesting a unique approach to the genre.
  • Another participant references "The Forever War," discussing its themes of time dilation and the challenges faced by soldiers returning to a vastly changed Earth.

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Participants share a general appreciation for imaginative science fiction but express differing views on what constitutes creativity in the genre. There is no consensus on specific works or themes, as various examples are discussed without agreement on their relative merits.

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Some discussions touch on the limitations of current scientific knowledge and how it influences the creativity of science fiction narratives. The conversation reflects a range of perspectives on how advancements in science may affect storytelling in the genre.

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Readers interested in science fiction literature, particularly those exploring themes of creativity and scientific plausibility, may find this discussion engaging.

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I read much science fiction as a teen but got fed up with the limited imagination. The aliens were always based on some known species : octopi, lions, wasps, etc. and the social system was usually a thinly disguised Roman Empire. Sure, you can write good stories in that framework, but I gravitated to history. The stuff that happens in real life isn't constrained by plausibility so it can be more outrageous and "imaginative."

Here's an exception, a truly original idea. Anders Sandberg's Hildemar's Knots. Life made of energy vortices in the superfluid/superconductive cores of neutron stars. While the astrophysics might be unknown to most, it is quite respectable stuff. The most prominent exponent is Egor Babaev. He's had over a hundred articles in Nature and Physical Review and is dripping with prizes and honors. Anders Sandberg is no slouch either, having been senior research fellow at the Future of Humanity Institute at the University of Oxford. Be assured that the science is respectable.
 
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Hornbein said:
I read much science fiction as a teen but got fed up with the limited imagination.
I don't remember most of the details, but I remember reading an old short story about humanity sending robotic creations to make first contact with the denizens of Jupiter. As in, on the surface of Jupiter. The robots end up being immune to various things the Jovians subject them to, such as the liquid oxygen that they douse them and their ship with as a form of chemical warfare (or something like that, it's been 30+ years), along with a few other things that also end up being useless against robots. Finally, after mistaking the robots to be actual humans and seeing that they and their ship are incredibly resilient, the Jovian leader calls off his crusade that he was planning to launch against humanity (which would almost certainly have been successful given the IMMENSE amount of raw material Jupiter would provide if it had a substantial solid interior along with the ludicrous amount of surface area of which to populate and extract said resources) and the robots get in their ship and leave, after accidentally saving humanity by simply not telling the Jovians that they were robots and not humans.

It strikes me that many older sci-fi stories are 'more creative' for the very reason that we didn't know as much about the universe as we do now, so stories like this didn't seem impossible when first written. It's a little easier to create when you don't have decades of astronomy and cosmology telling you that your ideas are impossible.
 
It's a wonderful short story by Isaac Asimov. The title was something like "victory..."
 
Alaistar Reynolds - Space opera sans FTL, there is some magic drive that can do 1G acceleration forever but no violations of relativity. Pushing Ice and House of Suns are two stand alone novels that explore this

Ian Banks Culture Novels - Space opera does w/ FTL, but sort of Star Trek for grownups
 
I'd say The Forever War fits into this category. I read it long ago, maybe 1975. It's how time dilation causes soldiers to return to Earth hundreds of years after they departed. They have trouble fitting in as their customs are archaic and despised. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War. Today it seems remarkably prescient.
 
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