Understanding Time-Dependent Probability in Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time-dependent probability in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of energy eigenstates and their time evolution. Participants explore how probabilities associated with quantum states change over time, the role of the Hamiltonian, and the implications of external interactions on these probabilities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how probabilities for finding a particle in a particular energy eigenstate remain constant over time, despite the ability to change the system's energy or state mix.
  • Another participant suggests that adding a new interaction to the Hamiltonian can alter the mix of states, implying that changes in the Hamiltonian can affect probabilities.
  • A third participant clarifies that if the Hamiltonian remains unchanged, the probabilities for measurement outcomes do not vary over time, although the wavefunction evolves according to time-dependent factors.
  • It is noted that assuming a time-independent Hamiltonian means that energy and compatible observables do not change over time without external influences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of a time-independent Hamiltonian. While some agree that probabilities remain constant without external changes, others emphasize the potential for changes in state mix through interactions, indicating a lack of consensus on the broader implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the implications of time-dependent versus time-independent Hamiltonians, nor do they clarify the conditions under which probabilities may change. The discussion reflects various interpretations of how quantum states evolve and the role of external influences.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of quantum mechanics, particularly those interested in the foundational concepts of state evolution and probability in quantum systems.

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Hi,
I'm a beginner at quantum mechanics and I wonder about this problem. Suppose I have found energy eigenstates of some potential, say, harmonic oscillator. Any state then can be expanded in terms of these eigenstates, and each term should be multiplied by the time factor exp(-iEt/h). What is the probability that the particle will be found in some particular eigenstate and how does it change in time? Using orthonormality of the energy eigenstates I find that the probability is just square of the amplitude and it doesn't change in time. But then, ANY state can be expanded in energy eigenstates, so this implies that the probability to be in ANY state is constant in time. Then, how can you change anything in quantum mechanics? Add/remove energy from the system, prepare the initial mix of states, change the mix?
 
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A new interaction added to the Hamiltonian can change the mix of states.
Otherwise, it is no different than normal modes in classical physics. The amplitude of each normal mode is also constant in time.
 
It's not strange; if the hamiltonian stays the same (e.g. the kinetic energy and the potential do not change) then it doesn't matter whether I measure now or in 20 minutes: chances of getting some particular result do not change. Only if I change something about the system (which reflects on the Hamiltonian, of course) the probabilities will change. Note however, that the wavefunction itself does change, it depends on time like
[tex]\Psi(x, t) = \sum_n c_n(t) \Psi_n(x)[/tex] with [tex]c_n(t) = e^{-i E_n t / \hbar} c_n(0)[/tex].
 
Assuming the Hamiltonian is time independent then energy, and any observable that is compatible(commutes) with energy does not change over time in the absence of external influence.
 

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