Unlocking Schrödinger's Equation Through Multivariable Calculus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the mathematical foundations necessary for understanding Schrödinger's Equation, particularly focusing on the relevance of multivariable calculus and other mathematical concepts. Participants explore what specific mathematical topics are needed to grasp the equation and its derivation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding relevant mathematical content in calculus books related to Schrödinger's Equation.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding Schrödinger's Equation requires knowledge of partial differential equations and linear algebra, indicating that it involves mathematics beyond basic calculus.
  • A question is posed regarding the difference between vector calculus and linear algebra, highlighting a need for clarification on these mathematical areas.
  • A distinction is made between linear algebra, which deals with equations and transformations in one variable, and vector calculus, which is described as multivariable calculus applied in three dimensions.
  • A suggestion is made to look for the derivation of Schrödinger's Equation in postgraduate physics texts rather than in mathematics books, along with a link to additional resources.
  • Encouragement is offered to persist in understanding the derivation, despite its complexity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a solid understanding of advanced mathematics is necessary for Schrödinger's Equation, but there is no consensus on the specific chapters or resources that would be most beneficial for learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the derivation of Schrödinger's Equation may not be found in standard mathematics texts, suggesting a limitation in the availability of resources that bridge the gap between mathematics and physics.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the mathematical foundations of quantum mechanics, particularly students or learners seeking to understand the relationship between advanced mathematics and physics concepts.

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I went through a whole calculus book and I didn't find anything that resembled sch eq. I specifically wanted to learn about that. What do you think the chapter will be called that introduced the math necessary for sch eq? Maybe it's in multivariable calculus.
 
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bobsmith76 said:
I went through a whole calculus book and I didn't find anything that resembled sch eq. I specifically wanted to learn about that. What do you think the chapter will be called that introduced the math necessary for sch eq? Maybe it's in multivariable calculus.

Well you'll probably be hard pressed to find a physics concept in a math text :P

Dealing with Schrödinger's equations involves mathematics beyond calculus. You need to know partial differential equations and linear algebra to get into the uses of Schrödinger's Equations.
 
thanks, that's what I needed to know. By the way, what's the difference between vector calculus and linear algebra.
 
Linear Algebra - Deals with equations and transformations, all in one variable

Vector Calculus - Deals with Calculus in 3D. - Its nothing but multivariable calculus!

and you are never going to find Schrödinger eqn derivation in a math book. Look for it in a Post Grad's Physics book. or here is a link. Its not easy to understand the derivation at the first go, but never give up. You'll understand it after a day or two(to be very optimistic). Nevertheless, best of luck.

http://physics.mq.edu.au/~jcresser/Phys201/LectureNotes/SchrodingerEqn.pdf

regards,
math_way
 

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