Verify that the formula provides a solution of the pde

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The discussion focuses on verifying whether the formula $u(x,t)=\phi(z)$, with $z$ defined implicitly by the relation $x-z=t a(\phi(z))$, is a solution to the partial differential equation (PDE) $u_t+a(u) u_x=0$. Participants explore the differentiation process and the implications of the implicit function theorem in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to differentiate the formula and checks if it satisfies the PDE, but expresses uncertainty about the results obtained.
  • Another participant points out a potential issue with the defining relation and suggests revisiting the implicit function theorem to clarify the differentiation process.
  • A third participant introduces a function $F(x, t, z)$ to facilitate the implicit differentiation and discusses the conditions under which $z$ can be defined as a function of $x$ and $t$.
  • There is a suggestion to implicitly differentiate the relation to find the partial derivatives of $z$, which are necessary for substituting back into the expressions for $u_x$ and $u_t$.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the differentiation process or the validity of the proposed solution to the PDE. There are competing views on the approach to take, particularly regarding the use of the implicit function theorem.

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The discussion highlights the need for careful application of the implicit function theorem and the potential complications arising from the differentiation of implicit relations. Specific assumptions about the smoothness of $\phi$ and the conditions for applying the theorem are noted but not fully resolved.

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Hello! (Wave)

I want to check by direct differentation that the formula $u(x,t)=\phi(z)$, where $z$ is given implicitly by $x-z=t a(\phi(z))$, does indeed provide a solution of the pde $u_t+a(u) u_x=0$.I have tried the following, but we do not get the desired result. Have I done something wrong?$x-z=ta\phi (z)\Rightarrow \phi (z)=\frac{x-z}{ta}$

$u(x,t)=\phi (z)=\frac{x-z}{ta}$

$u_t=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}$

$u_x=\frac{1}{ta}$

$u_t+a(u)u_x=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}+a\frac{1}{ta}=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}+\frac{at}{t^2a}=\frac{-x+z+at}{at^2} $.
 
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evinda said:
Hello! (Wave)

I want to check by direct differentation that the formula $u(x,t)=\phi(z)$, where $z$ is given implicitly by $x-z=t a(\phi(z))$, does indeed provide a solution of the pde $u_t+a(u) u_x=0$.I have tried the following, but we do not get the desired result. Have I done something wrong?$x-z=ta\phi (z)\Rightarrow \phi (z)=\frac{x-z}{ta}$

You previously had the defining relation $x - z = ta(\phi(z))$, which is different. I think you need to go back to that relation and apply the implicit function theorem.

evinda said:
$u(x,t)=\phi (z)=\frac{x-z}{ta}$

$u_t=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}$

$u_x=\frac{1}{ta}$

$u_t+a(u)u_x=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}+a\frac{1}{ta}=-\frac{x-z}{at^2}+\frac{at}{t^2a}=\frac{-x+z+at}{at^2} $.
 
Hold on, I was going to explain.
 
So, I assume that $\phi$ is any smooth function of a real variable.

Define: $F : \mathbb{R^3} \to \mathbb{R}$ by
\[
F(x, t, z) := x - z - t a(\phi(z)).
\]
You want to use the relation $F(x, t, z) = 0$ to define $z$ as a function of $x$ and $t$. By the implicit function theorem, this can be done in a sufficiently small neighbourhood of any point $(x_0, t_0, z_0)$ for which it holds that $F(x_0, t_0, z_0) = 0$ and the derivative $D_zF(x_0, t_0, z_0) \neq 0$. So, near such a point we have $F(x, t, z(x, t)) = 0$, i.e.
\[
x - z(x,t) - t a(\phi(z(x,t))) = 0.
\]
Moreover, by the same theorem, you can find the derivatives of $z$ by implicit differentiation. Can you implicitly differentiate the above equality with respect to $x$ and $t$ to find the partial derivatives of $z$?

Once you have done this, note that $u_x(x,t) = \phi'(z(x,t)) D_xz(x,t)$ and $u_t(x,t) = \phi'(z(x,t)) D_tz(x,t)$, where the partials of $z$ that you just calculated appear again. Substitute for these and see if you can prove that $u$ indeed satisfies the PDE.
 

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