Voids inside atoms and voids in space?

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The discussion centers on the comparison between the empty space within atoms, specifically the void between the nucleus and the electron cloud, and the vast intergalactic voids. Participants assert that while both types of voids are fundamentally "space," the implications of quantum mechanics (QM) complicate our understanding of these voids. The consensus is that, despite popular belief, the notion of atoms being primarily empty space is more nuanced than it seems, warranting further exploration of atomic structure and quantum principles.

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Does anyone know if there is a similarity between the empty space separating the nucleus from the electron cloud of an atom, and the empty space found in the vast expanse of the inter galactic voids. The statement "Matter is composed mostly of empty space" implies they are the same. Is there anything special about this 'atomic void'
 
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What do you mean by "the same"? What characteristics did you have in mind when you are comparing them?

"Space" is space. Why would the space be any different? Granted, at some length scale, QM may have something to say about our ability to define what we mean by a "length", so the concept of "space" may require rethinking. However, based on our current understanding, and the formalism of the physics that we have used to describe atoms and celestial bodies, there is no difference.

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Note that the popular idea of atoms being made up mostly of empty space is actually much more complicated than it appears. I know we had a thread on it recently, so a forum search may be useful.
 

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