What Are the Boundaries of Philosophy and Its Relation to Science?

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The discussion revolves around the boundaries of philosophy and its relationship to science, exploring what constitutes philosophy, its scope, and the nature of philosophical inquiry compared to scientific investigation.

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  • Some participants express confusion about the definition of philosophy, questioning whether fields like neuro-biology and linguistics fall under its umbrella.
  • There is a suggestion that philosophy focuses on "Why" questions and meanings that science cannot explain.
  • One participant questions the educational value of philosophy, wondering how progress can be made on topics that seem unresolvable.
  • Another participant argues that different disciplines can study the same phenomena from distinct perspectives, citing theology and physics as examples.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the ability of philosophy to provide definitive answers, likening it to religion in its subjective nature.
  • There is a recognition that philosophical questions can be intriguing, with participants noting that scientists also ponder existential questions.
  • One participant reflects on human insecurity regarding the unknown and the tendency to seek meaning through philosophical inquiry.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of philosophy or its relationship to science, with multiple competing views and ongoing debate about the validity and purpose of philosophical inquiry.

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Some limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of philosophy, differing perspectives on the relationship between philosophy and science, and the subjective nature of philosophical questions.

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Don't close this thread. I am not discussing any philosophy here.
I am just confused with what philosophy is. Wikipedia says:
Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.

In this definition, it says study of mind and language is philosophy. Well then is neuro-biology and linguistics philosophy? What is it exactly?
 
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Avichal said:
Don't close this thread. I am not discussing any philosophy here.
I am just confused with what philosophy is. Wikipedia says:


In this definition, it says study of mind and language is philosophy. Well then is neuro-biology and linguistics philosophy? What is it exactly?

Philosophy is all about the "Why" questions and is interested in the meanings of things which can't be explained via science.
 
MathJakob said:
Philosophy is all about the "Why" questions and is interested in the meanings of things which can't be explained via science.

Do you mean like - Why do electrons exist, what is the meaning of life etc. If these are the questions that philosophy deals with, then why is it a subject that is taught in universities? I can't imagine how you can progress further on such topics.
 
Just because two things study the same phenomena it doesn't mean one of them is part of the other. They can study these phenomena in different perspectives.

Theology and physics both study the universe as a whole and its fundamental properties but neither physics is a part of theology or theology a kind of physics.
 
Avichal said:
Do you mean like - Why do electrons exist, what is the meaning of life etc. If these are the questions that philosophy deals with, then why is it a subject that is taught in universities? I can't imagine how you can progress further on such topics.

Philosophy is like religion in the sense that you can't progress, prove, test or observe anything. All philosophy does is try to answer the questions science can't.

It's all completely subjective though, there is no right or wrong answer really. I actually find philosophy quite interesting, I don't think there is a single scientist out there that hasn't thought "Why are we here" or "Why is the speed of light c and not c+2" ect.

These questions are fun to think about but ultimately there is no reason. Id the speed of like were 100m/s we'd be asking why is it 100m/s and not 500m/s.

Humans are so insecure about not knowing and fear dying forever so they invent things or reasons to give their lives meaning.
 
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