What Causes Negative Gravitational Force Between Particles?

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The discussion centers on the concept of negative gravitational force between particles, specifically between an electron and a proton. It is established that gravitational force, as defined by Newton's Law of Gravity, is always attractive, indicated by the negative sign in the formula F = - G (m1 m2) / r². The conversation highlights that while conventional matter does not exhibit repulsive gravity, general relativity allows for negative gravitational effects on cosmological scales, attributed to the cosmological constant. The implications of these forces are further explored through the lens of energy states and photon interactions in electron transitions.

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What does it mean if between an electron and a proton has negative gravitational force? Does this make the force attractive or repulsive?
 
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Verbally, It means two masses (electron and proton -in your case) will be replelling each other.
But it is not possible b'coz Gravitational force depends on the product of masses and distance - and under any circumstance there is no way the product is coming out as "negative" to make a negative gravitational force.
 
In the answer to a question last week from class, it was in fact negative. I know that for electrical force this would be attraction, but what would this mean for gravitational? Repulsion?
 
In the answer to a question last week from class, it was in fact negative.
Well it couldn't be Gravitational force -you are talking about then. Either you have mistaken something else as Gravitational force or there is something wrong with your solution to the problem.
 
The theories indicate that centripal force and the speed of an electron keep it orbit. The speed of electrons increases in fixed steps, each step representing a higher or lower kinetic energy state. I assume that the lowest step of engery is enough to prevent the electron from collapsing into the nucleus, else matter would be real unstable. When electrons step down in energy, they often release photons (I'm not sure of the exact requirements for photon release). Electrons can also absorb photons, but I'm don't remember if it's enough to jump them up to the next energy state.

It's pretty complicated, some orbital patterns are though not to even be elliptical, but figure 8 like. A collision between an electron and positron results in total conversion of the matter into energy. I don't know what happens with an electron / proton collision.
 
.:JimmY:. said:
Verbally, It means two masses (electron and proton -in your case) will be replelling each other.
But it is not possible b'coz Gravitational force depends on the product of masses and distance - and under any circumstance there is no way the product is coming out as "negative" to make a negative gravitational force.
GR allows for negative gravitational force (aka antigravity) on cosmological scales. Since the universe is expanding at an accelerate the phenomena is said to result from antigravity which in term results from a non-zero cosmological constant.

Pete
 
matt85 said:
What does it mean if between an electron and a proton has negative gravitational force?
I don't understand what you mean. Can you give us the exact question from your class?

"Negative" just indicates a direction; of course, for gravity the force is always attractive. Whether that's negative or positive, depends on how you have defined things.

Perhaps you talking about Newton's Law of gravity written this way:

\vec{F} = - G \frac{m_1 m_2}{r^2} \hat{r}

In this formula, F represents the gravitational force of m_1 on m_2, where \vec{r} is the position of m_2 with respect to m_1. The negative sign just means that the force is opposite to the direction \hat{r}, which means that the force on m_2 points toward m_1.
 
negative gravity means repulsion as posted above. But conventional matter does not exhibit repulsive gravity. It is represented in general relativity byu the cosmological constant. Einstein showed that gravity is based on mass, energy and pressure. Negative pressure means begative (repulsive) gravity. "The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene discusses this in Chapter 10.
 

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