What information will you send to aliens?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of what information humanity should send to extraterrestrial beings, exploring various forms of communication such as music, mathematics, and visual representations. Participants consider the implications of different dimensions and the potential challenges in conveying human culture and knowledge to aliens.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that satellites contain information about Earth and humanity intended for aliens, questioning the effectiveness of such communication if aliens exist in different dimensions.
  • One participant humorously suggests sending the addresses of disliked individuals to aliens.
  • Several participants propose that music and mathematics are universal languages, though they acknowledge that not all beings may perceive music similarly to humans.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of spoken language, particularly English, and the possibility that aliens may have different sensory perceptions.
  • Geometry is suggested as a potential effective means of communication, with references to the Mandelbrot set and geometrical representations used in previous space missions.
  • Participants discuss the encoding of fundamental constants and pulsar locations on probes as a method to convey information about humanity's position and nature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the best method of communication with aliens, as participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of music, mathematics, and geometry. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of any form of communication.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying their proposed methods of communication, including the potential differences in sensory perception and numerical systems among alien civilizations.

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Do you know guys that every satelites have some note that contains

all about the Earth and human? It is to inform our information to aliens.

And many people tried to infrom human's culture such as music and some great pictures

and a lot of languages including English.

And I thought that it would be just wasting time because if the aliens cannot realized them,

I mean If the dimension aliens live and our's are different, all the efforts to communicate

with them would just spend our times and lots of money.

Isnt it?

I heard that the real dimension univesrse has is 11-dimensional space. So any type of

combination of dimensions occurs in senses of beings, human has 4-dim.

I want to hear your opinions and how do you make a meassage if you try to send it.
 
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I give them the addresses of people I don't like and then taunt them to take me away.
 
I appreciate your kind regards,

then you will be the first one whose address is exposed by aliens.
 
I honestly think that music would be the best form of communication. Same with mathematics. They are both universal languages.

Music is essentially heard everywhere. Flies buzz in the key of F haha
 
IanTBlack said:
I honestly think that music would be the best form of communication. Same with mathematics. They are both universal languages.

Music is essentially heard everywhere. Flies buzz in the key of F haha

Appreciating music requires specific functions in the brain. Some people are unable to hear music in a normal sense - it just sounds like noise, their brain doesn't recognize pattern or melody or anything else associated with music. So there's no reason to think that alien beings would have a sense of music like our own.

I think mathematics is the best way to communicate, but communication with alien beings could very well be impossible.
 
Well any attempt at speech is pretty well useless, how will the aliens understand English? Math is likely the best way. Even on Earth some of us think of music differently than others. And what if the aliens are deaf? However even Mathematical communication could well be impossible. Their numeric system could well differ from ours. Videos without sound would possible work, provided the aliens could see.
cheers, BT
 
Not just any maths since we use a numerical system, and all the equations are in English or Greek letters.

Geometry would be a good way. A single image of the Mandelbrot set should catch anyone's attention who knows about mathematics.
 
Correct, MickeyW! Geometrical representations would be recognized by any advanced civilization - which is why the nuclear fine constant, Ha spectral frequency and various other fundamental constants were geometrically encoded on the pioneer probe. Music was also encoded as it too is very geometrical and not naturally occurring. We also included the location and frequency of various pulsars in the galaxy to enable them to precisely determine out location. That should remove any fears they might harbor of us being a threat. Sort of like adding your credit card and pin number to your facebook profile.
 
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