What is S = –2 hypernuclei and its nuclear emulation?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of S = –2 hypernuclei and its nuclear emulation, particularly focusing on the binding energy and decay processes associated with these hypernuclei. Participants explore the implications of a specific mass range (16-17 MeV) and its relation to charged particle decay, as well as the potential existence of new particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the meaning of "V" in the context of nuclear emulation, suggesting it relates to binding energy and potential well depth.
  • There is a clarification that "V" is a potential and not a particle, and it does not decay, while the decay of the bound particle ##\Xi^-## is discussed.
  • Participants discuss the low probability of decay to an electron for a lone Λ particle, with a specific branching ratio mentioned.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the likelihood of discovering exotic particles during the 1940s and 1950s, citing historical context and the particle zoo period.
  • Another participant suggests that the 17 MeV mass could potentially indicate a new unknown fundamental particle, such as a boson, while acknowledging the uncertainty of this claim.
  • Bayesian theory is referenced in relation to the exploration of the 17 MeV anomaly, linking it to recent experimental observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of discovering new particles and the interpretation of the 17 MeV mass. There is no consensus on the implications of the discussed findings or the nature of the potential particles involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and figures from the linked article, indicating a dependence on the definitions and interpretations presented in that context. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the nature of the potential and the decay processes involved.

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Experimental status of S = –2 hypernucle
i saw thisExperimental status of S = –2 hypernucle
Kazuma NAKAZAWA
Physics Department, Gifu University, Gifu 501-1193, Japan

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https://journals.jps.jp/doi/pdf/10.7566/JPSCP.17.031001

and i would like to know more

its nuclear emulation

especially

page 3

Screenshot 2024-01-02 at 20-26-13 jpscp.17.031001.pdf.png


from page 3

https://journals.jps.jp/doi/pdf/10.7566/JPSCP.17.031001

what is V ? figure 3

by nuclear emulation V has mass 16-17 MeV and decay in to charged particles
 
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kodama said:
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from page 3

https://journals.jps.jp/doi/pdf/10.7566/JPSCP.17.031001

what is V ? figure 3

by nuclear emulation V has mass 16-17 MeV and decay in to charged particles
Not "V has mass". V has dimension of mass/energy.
Are you asking what is V or what is V0? These are different things (see equation (2)).
From my reading, V seems to be the actual binding energy of Ξ-. V0 is the total potential well depth - counting both the binding energy and zero point energy.
 
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snorkack said:
Not "V has mass". V has dimension of mass/energy.
Are you asking what is V or what is V0? These are different things (see equation (2)).
From my reading, V seems to be the actual binding energy of Ξ-. V0 is the total potential well depth - counting both the binding energy and zero point energy.
but it decay in to 2 in to charged particles-(electron ?)
 
kodama said:
by nuclear emulation V has mass 16-17 MeV and decay in to charged particles
V is a potential. It's not a particle and it doesn't decay to anything.
##\Xi^-## bound in nuclei decay to other things.
 
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mfb said:
V is a potential. It's not a particle and it doesn't decay to anything.
##\Xi^-## bound in nuclei decay to other things.
is ##\Xi^-## a particle
 
kodama said:
is ##\Xi^-## a particle
Yes, it is.
Decay to electron is allowed but low probability. For a lone Λ, decay to electron has a branching ratio of 0,083%
 
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kodama said:
That I don´t think likely at all.
Late 1940s and 1950s were "particle zoo" period. Scientists had no clue what particles exist, they had not yet spotted the quark model periodicity system, so they had eyes open for any new particles they could see.
If there were any exotic particles, charged and low energy but with such a low formation cross-section that it was missed through 1950s, it is a weird coincidence that one should have been spotted back in 1946 and then none in 1950s.

On the other hand, 17 MeV quite fits the explanation in the article - potential well depth (baryon binding energy in nucleus+the zero point energy) and the binding energies of the stronger bound nuclei (like α) are in that region!
 
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snorkack said:
That I don´t think likely at all.
LIf there were any exotic particles, charged and low energy
*uncharged but decay e+e-

snorkack said:
On the other hand, 17 MeV quite fits the explanation in the article - potential well depth (baryon binding energy in nucleus+the zero point energy) and the binding energies of the stronger bound nuclei (like α) are in that region!

not likely at all but it is possible 17 MeV could be a new unknown fundamental particle a boson?
 
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kodama said:
but it is possible 17 MeV could be a new unknown fundamental particle a boson?

And what answer do you expect?
 
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weirdoguy said:
And what answer do you expect?
not likely at all could suggest a possible exploration

in Bayesian theory

if
arXiv:2311.18632 (hep-ex)
Observation of structures at ∼17 and ∼38 MeV/c2 in the γγ invariant mass spectra in pC, dC, and dCu collisions at plab of a few GeV/c per nucleon
Kh.U. Abraamyan, Ch. Austin, M.I. Baznat, K.K. Gudima, M.A. Kozhin, S.G. Reznikov, A.S. Sorin

is true

and
arXiv:2308.06473 (nucl-ex)
[Submitted on 12 Aug 2023]
Observation of the X17 anomaly in the decay of the Giant Dipole Resonance of 8Be
A.J. Krasznahorkay,
what could be the 17 MeV in
Experimental status of S = –2 hypernucle
Kazuma NAKAZAWA
Physics Department, Gifu University, Gifu 501-1193, Japan

multiple experiment with 17 MeV decay in to e+e-
 
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