What is the inductive step for proving mathematical induction?

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The discussion revolves around the process of proving a mathematical statement using induction, specifically focusing on the inductive step and the appropriate choice of base case for the sum involving the expression $$\sum_{i=1}^n i \cdot 2^i$$. Participants explore the implications of different base cases and the formulation of the inductive hypothesis.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the base case for the sum and whether it should be 0 or 1, noting that using 0 leads to an empty sum.
  • Another participant suggests that using $$n=1$$ as the base case avoids complications associated with an empty sum and allows for proving the result for all $$n \ge 1$$.
  • A participant provides a general formula for the sum and notes that it does not involve mathematical induction, which raises questions about the relevance of this approach to the original problem.
  • One participant outlines the inductive hypothesis and proposes adding $$(k+1)2^{k+1}$$ to both sides to form the inductive step, aiming to derive the statement for $$P_{k+1}$$.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind adding $$(k+1)2^{k+1}$$ and whether the index of summation should change, prompting further clarification on the inductive step process.
  • Several participants discuss the general strategy of how to approach the inductive step, emphasizing the importance of manipulating the left side of the equation to achieve the desired form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the choice of base case and the clarity of the inductive step. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for proving the statement.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential confusion arising from the choice of base case and the implications for the inductive step. The discussion also touches on the distinction between using sums and products in induction proofs, which may affect the approach taken.

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Hey!

I've just started to learn some mathematical induction and it's proving quite tricky. Hopefully someone could help me out a little with my questions!

I don't know how to format question on this forum but I'll try my best to accurately represent it:

n
$$sigma$$ i * 2^i = (n-1) * (2^n+1) + 2
i=1

Now, I know that I have to prove for the base case, which I take it to be 0. If I do so, it holds true however I don't know what the meaning of i=1 under the sigma represents. Does that mean the base case must equal 1? If so it doesn't work out I think.

If anyone could help me figure out this one problem, that'd be awesome!

Thank you!
 
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Is this what you are trying to prove?

\displaystyle \begin{align*} \sum_{i = 1}^n{\left( i \cdot 2^i \right) } = \left( n -1 \right)\, 2^{n + 1} + 2 \end{align*}
 
Yes that's exactly what I'm trying to prove, thanks for formatting it for me!
 
racket said:
Hey!

I've just started to learn some mathematical induction and it's proving quite tricky. Hopefully someone could help me out a little with my questions!

I don't know how to format question on this forum but I'll try my best to accurately represent it:

n
$$sigma$$ i * 2^i = (n-1) * (2^n+1) + 2
i=1

Now, I know that I have to prove for the base case, which I take it to be 0. If I do so, it holds true however I don't know what the meaning of i=1 under the sigma represents. Does that mean the base case must equal 1? If so it doesn't work out I think.

If anyone could help me figure out this one problem, that'd be awesome!

Thank you!

If you take $$n=0$$ as the base case the sum on the left hand side is an empty sum and so equal to zero, as is the right hand side. Which will work as a base case. However you will probably be better off using $$n=1$$ as your base case and avoid the degenerate sum you get when $$n=0$$.

Using $$n=1$$ as a base case you will, when you have proven the inductive step, have proven the result for every $$n\ge 1$$, taking $$n=0$$ as a base case you will when you have proven the inductive step have proven the result for every $$n\ge 0$$

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When I do that with the base case as 1 I get:

1 * 2^1 = (1 -1) * (2^n+1) + 2

2 = 2

Okay so, here's my work so far:

I'm assuming n = m when m >= 1

So n + 1.

And (m - 1) * (2^m+1) + 2 = m(2^m+2) + 2

Now I'm stuck but am I on the right track?
 
racket said:
Hey!

I've just started to learn some mathematical induction and it's proving quite tricky. Hopefully someone could help me out a little with my questions!

I don't know how to format question on this forum but I'll try my best to accurately represent it:

n
$$sigma$$ i * 2^i = (n-1) * (2^n+1) + 2
i=1

Now, I know that I have to prove for the base case, which I take it to be 0. If I do so, it holds true however I don't know what the meaning of i=1 under the sigma represents. Does that mean the base case must equal 1? If so it doesn't work out I think.

If anyone could help me figure out this one problem, that'd be awesome!

Thank you!

A general formula for...

$\displaystyle S_{n} = \sum_{k=1}^{n} k\ x^{k}\ (1)$

... can be found as follows. You start from the well known...

$\displaystyle g(x)= \sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{k} = \frac{1 - x^{n+1}}{1 - x}\ (2)$

... and from (2) You derive...

$\displaystyle S_{n} = x\ \frac{d}{d x} g(x) = \frac{x}{(1 - x)^{2}} - (n-1)\ \frac{x^{n+1}}{1 - x}\ (3)$

Of course for x=2 You obtain...

$\displaystyle \sum_{k=1}^{n} k\ 2^{k} = 2 + (n-1)\ 2^{n+1}\ (4)$

... and of course all that doesn't use mathematical induction... Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
After having shown the base case $P_1$ is true, I would next state the induction hypothesis $P_k$:

$$\sum_{i=1}^k\left( i\cdot2^i \right)=(k-1)2^{k+1}+2$$

As the inductive step, try adding $$(k+1)2^{k+1}$$ to both sides. You want to be able to arrange the result as $P_{k+1}$:

$$\sum_{i=1}^{k+1}\left( i\cdot2^i \right)=((k+1)-1)2^{(k+1)+1}+2$$

Once you've done this, then your proof by induction will be complete.
 
Once I've done that, would I get:

k(2^k+2) + 2

On the right side?

How do I complete the proof from this point?
 
racket said:
Once I've done that, would I get:

k(2^k+2) + 2

On the right side?

How do I complete the proof from this point?

No, your right side becomes:

$$(k-1)2^{k+1}+2+(k+1)2^{k+1}$$

Now, see if you can show that this is:

$$((k+1)-1)2^{(k+1)+1}+2$$
 
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Ah I'm sorry this is still confusing to me. Why exactly do you add (k+1)2^k+1 to both sides? On the left side do you change the i's to k's ?
 
  • #11
racket said:
Ah I'm sorry this is still confusing to me. Why exactly do you add (k+1)2^k+1 to both sides? On the left side do you change the i's to k's ?

Using the inductive step I gave immediately makes the left side what it needs to be. Consider:

$$\sum_{k=a}^n\left(f(k) \right)+f(n+1)=\sum_{k=a}^{n+1}\left(f(k) \right)$$

And no, there is no need to change the index of summation.
 
  • #12
I get it! Thank you, it's early and for some reason I didn't see it. Do you mind explaining one more thing? Why exactly does the inductive step make the left side what it's needed to be? Is that the same for all questions like this one?
 
  • #13
racket said:
I get it! Thank you, it's early and for some reason I didn't see it. Do you mind explaining one more thing? Why exactly does the inductive step make the left side what it's needed to be? Is that the same for all questions like this one?

Usually, if the left side of the induction hypothesis is a sum, then adding what would be the next term to both sides is a good inductive step. If the left side is a product, the you would want to multiply both sides by what would be the next term.

In many cases, you want to look at the left side and consider what you can do to it to make it what you need. This will be your inductive step. After demonstrating the base case is true, you then state the induction hypothesis $P_k$. Then, you want to use legal algebraic operations to derive from this $P_{k+1}$.
 

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