What is the proper way to add vectors and what does the modulus notation mean?

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The discussion revolves around understanding vector notation, specifically the meaning of modulus notation and how to add vectors. Participants express confusion regarding the representation and calculation of vector magnitudes and their relationships.

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  • Participants question the meaning of modulus notation in vectors and explore how to calculate vector magnitudes, referencing Pythagorean theorem and distance between points. There is also discussion about vector addition and the relationship between different vectors.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the magnitude of vectors and the relationship between vector sums. However, there remains uncertainty about specific calculations and the proper methods for adding vectors.

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Participants are navigating foundational concepts of vectors and their operations, with some expressing a need for additional resources and clarification on the relationships between vectors in different contexts.

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Could anyone explain to me what all these notations are for the vectors? I've never used vectors before and all I know is that they show direction and magnitude, but don't know the actual notation. I'm assuming OA is the vector of O to A but what is it when they put the modulus around the vector?

Any links to vectors would be great, thanks.
 
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synkk said:
I'm assuming OA is the vector of O to A but what is it when they put the modulus around the vector?
That indicates the magnitude of the vector.
Any links to vectors would be great, thanks.
Basic Vector Operations
 
Doc Al said:
That indicates the magnitude of the vector.

Basic Vector Operations

I see, for the magnitude you just use Pythagoras to find it? Could you not use the distance between two points?
 
synkk said:
I see, for the magnitude you just use Pythagoras to find it?
Yes.
Could you not use the distance between two points?
That amounts to the same thing.
 
synkk said:
I see, for the magnitude you just use Pythagoras to find it? Could you not use the distance between two points?
The formula for finding the magnitude is :

[tex]|a|=\sqrt{a_{1}^{2}+a_{2}^{2}}[/tex]
 
hint: the absolute value of a complex number, just like any number, is its distance from zero...
 
mtayab1994 said:
The formula for finding the magnitude is :

[tex]|a|=\sqrt{a_{1}^{2}+a_{2}^{2}}[/tex]

I'm not sure what A is.

Okay for this sketch:

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Vector OB is 2(34)^1/2
Vector OA is 13

Now I'm reading about vectors online and it's saying that you can get to point A from OB, then to A. Now the distance from B to A is root 5, so OB to B-A should be the same as OA? Well If I add root 5 and 2(34)^1/2 it is not 13. Could anyone clear this up thanks.
 
Basic calculation
Use a graph paper and draw the vectors to scale.
From this drawing you can find the magnitude of vector AB

Later you will be able to use vector algebra to calculate the magnitude and direction.
http://emweb.unl.edu/math/mathweb/vectors/vectors.html
 
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synkk said:
Now I'm reading about vectors online and it's saying that you can get to point A from OB, then to A. Now the distance from B to A is root 5, so OB to B-A should be the same as OA? Well If I add root 5 and 2(34)^1/2 it is not 13. Could anyone clear this up thanks.
It's true that the vector sum of [itex]\vec{OB} + \vec{BA} = \vec{OA}[/itex]. But you don't add vectors by simply adding their magnitudes. To learn how to add vectors (there are several ways) explore the link I gave you earlier and this one: Vector Addition.
 

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