What is the range of x for positive values in f(x) = x^2 -2x -3?

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The discussion revolves around determining the range of x for which the function f(x) = x^2 - 2x - 3 is positive. Participants explore the behavior of the quadratic function and its graph, particularly focusing on its zero crossing points and the intervals where the function takes positive values.

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  • Participants discuss finding the zero crossing points of the function and how to sketch the graph to understand its behavior. There are attempts to analyze the intervals where the function is positive by evaluating points within those intervals. Some participants question how to graph the function without a calculator and consider using a table of values to assist in plotting.

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The discussion is active, with various participants contributing different methods to analyze the function. Some have suggested checking specific points to determine where the function is positive, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the shape and symmetry of the parabola. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints such as the inability to use a graphing calculator during tests, which influences their approach to graphing the function manually. There is also a focus on understanding the implications of the function's behavior around its zero crossing points.

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1. Plot the graph of thefunction f(x) = x^2 -2x -3 and determine the range of x for which the function is positive

x^2 -2x - 3
(x+1) (x-3) = 0
x = -1 and x = 3
Range -1, 3 <--- I am not sure am I right?


Cheers!
 
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You found the zero crossing points, and there are two of them. One way to find out what the curve does in any region is to sketch it and see. Either use pencil and paper, or use one of the online graphing sites. Search google: online graphing
 
NascentOxygen said:
You found the zero crossing points, and there are two of them. One way to find out what the curve does in any region is to sketch it and see. Either use pencil and paper, or use one of the online graphing sites. Search google: online graphing

Cheers! So the crossing points are x = -1 and x =3 , now I have to find how to graph in pencil because during the test I can't use graphic calculator ..
 
Well you know what parabolas generally look like, and can determine whether they are shaped more like a u or an n by checking whether the coefficient (number in front) of the highest power (x2 in this case) is positive or negative (it can't be zero because then there would be no x2 term and it wouldn't be a parabola then). In this case the coefficient of x2 is 1, which is positive, so the parabola is shaped like a u.

Also keep in mind that a parabola is always symmetrical about its turning point (lowest or highest point) so since the zeroes are -1 and 3, so the parabola will have its lowest point directly in between the zeroes, at x=1.

And you can also plot points to help aid you! Try x=0 to find where it cuts the y-axis for example, and maybe even x=1 to know where the lowest point is located.
 
From what i see: it'll be decreasing from ]-∞,1] and increasing from [1,+∞[
 
Where the function is increasing of decreasing is not directly relevant to where the function is positive.


Better: [itex]x^2- 2x- 3= (x+ 1)(x- 3)[/itex] and the product of two number is positive only if the two numbers have the same sign. So: (x+1< 0 and x- 3< 0) or (x+1> 0 and (x- 3> 0). x+ 1< 0 for x< -1 and x- 3< 0 for x< 3. Those are both true for x< -1. x+1> 0 for x> -1 and x- 3> 0 for x> 3. Those are both true for x> 3.

More generally, any continuous function (and every polynomial is continuous) can change from "< 0" to "> 0" only where it "= 0". So we only need to check one point in each interval [itex](-\infty, -1)[/itex], [itex](-1, 3)[/itex], [itex](3, \infty)[/itex]. If x= -2, which is less than -1, [itex]f(-2)= (-2)^2- 2(-2)- 3= 4+ 4- 3= 5> 0[/itex] so f(x) is positive for all x< -3. If x= 0, which is between -1 and 3, [itex]f(0)= 0^2- 2(0)- 3= -3[/itex] so f(x) is negative for all x between -1 and 3. Finally, if x= 4, which is larger than 3, [itex]f(4)= 4^2- 2(4)- 3= 16- 8- 3= 5> 0[/itex].
 
luigihs said:
Cheers! So the crossing points are x = -1 and x =3 , now I have to find how to graph in pencil because during the test I can't use graphic calculator ..
You draw two columns, heading one 'x' and the other 'y'. Divide the x interval -1 ... 3 into, say, 5, and write these x values in the x column. Calculate the y value for each of those x-values, knowing that y=x^2 -2x -3.

Finally, plot each x,y point on a set of axes.
 
Since we know the graph intercepts the x-axis at x=-1 and x=3, we can pick x values that are less-than -1, in between -1 and 3, and greater then 3, and solve for each point. I like the points -2, 0, and 4. At x=-2 we get 5, at x=0 we get -3, at x=4 we get 5. With this data we clearly can determine where the function is positive. I usually prefer to do this using a number line so I can visually see and keep track of the functions behavior.
 
i see...
 

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