MHB What Real Number and Positive Limit Solve This Integral Ratio Challenge?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical challenge to find a real number c and a positive number L that satisfy a specific limit involving integrals of sine and cosine functions. Participants are encouraged to solve the problem and refer to guidelines for submitting their solutions. Kiwi is recognized for providing the correct solution to the challenge. The focus is on the limit as r approaches infinity, emphasizing the relationship between the integrals and the parameters c and L. This integral ratio challenge highlights advanced calculus concepts and invites further exploration of mathematical limits.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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Find a real number $c$ and a positive number $L$ for which
$$\displaystyle\lim_{r\to\infty} \frac{\displaystyle r^c \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \sin(x) \,dx}{\displaystyle \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \cos(x) \,dx} = L.$$

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Congratulations to Kiwi for his correct solution, which follows:

I choose to let r tend to infinity through the sequence of integer values r = {3,7,11, ..., 3+4t ...}.

Let
\(I= \int x^r \sin(x) \,dx\)

and
\(J = \int x^r \cos(x) \,dx\)

so
\(\displaystyle\lim_{r\to\infty} \frac{ r^c \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \sin(x) \,dx}{ \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \cos(x) \,dx} = \displaystyle\lim_{r\to\infty} \frac{r^c ^{\pi/2}_0}{[J]^{\pi/2}_0}L.\)

Now by repeated application of integration by parts (remembering r = 3 mod 4):
\(J=x^r \sin(x) + r x^{r-1} \cos(x) - r^2 x^{r-2} \sin(x) - r^3 x^{r-3} \cos(x) +
... + r^{r-3} x^3 \sin(x) + r^{r-2} x^2 \cos(x) - r^{r-1} x \sin(x) - r^r \cos(x)\)

\([J]^{\pi/2}_{0}=
(x^r \sin(x) - r^2 x^{r-2} \sin(x) + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 \sin(x) - r^{r-1} x \sin(x))|_{x=\pi/2} - \displaystyle\lim_{x\to 0} \frac rx
(x^r \cos(x) - r^2 x^{r-2} \cos(x) + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 \cos(x) - r^{r-1} x \cos(x))\)

\(\therefore [J]^{\pi/2}_{0}=
(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x )|_{x=\pi/2} - \displaystyle\lim_{x\to 0} \frac rx
(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x )\)

\(\therefore [J]^{\pi/2}_{0}=
(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x )|_{x=\pi/2} - 1\) \(\tag{1}\)

Similarly
\(I=-x^r \cos(x) + r x^{r-1} \sin(x) + r^2 x^{r-2} \cos(x) - r^3 x^{r-3} \sin(x) + ...
-r^{r-3}x^3 \cos(x) + r^{r-2} x^2 \sin(x) + r^{r-1} x \cos(x) - r^r \sin(x)\)

noting that the cos terms are all zero for x=0 or x=pi/2 and that the sin terms are not singular and are equal to zero as x approaches 0.
\(^{\pi/2}_{0}= \frac rx
(x^r \sin(x) - r^2 x^{r-2} \sin(x) + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 \sin(x) - r^{r-1} x \sin(x))|_{x=\pi/2}\)

\(\therefore ^{\pi/2}_{0}= \frac rx
(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x )|_{x=\pi/2}\) \(\tag{2}\)

So finally, using (1) and (2):
\(\displaystyle\lim_{r \to \infty} \frac{r^c^{\pi/2}_0}
{ [J]^{\pi/2}_0}=\displaystyle\lim_{r \to \infty}\frac {r^c(\frac rx(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x ))|_{x=\pi/2}}{(x^r - r^2 x^{r-2} + ... + r^{r-3} x^3 - r^{r-1} x )|_{x=\pi/2}-1}=\displaystyle\lim_{r \to \infty}\frac{r^cr2}{\pi}\)

So
\(\displaystyle\lim_{r\to\infty} \frac{ r^c \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \sin(x) \,dx}{ \int_0^{\pi/2} x^r \cos(x) \,dx} =\frac 2\pi\) if c = -1 and cannot be a positive real number for any other value of c.
 

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