What the bleep 3 hr seminar on the soul

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The discussion revolves around a seminar at The University of Queensland featuring Dr. Fred Alan Wolf, who is set to present ideas connecting quantum physics and spirituality. Participants express concerns about the legitimacy of the seminar and the implications of promoting such ideas within an academic setting.

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  • Some participants question the qualifications of Dr. Wolf to lecture on quantum physics, suggesting that his ideas may not align with modern scientific standards.
  • There is criticism regarding the financial aspect of attending the seminar, with some participants mocking the ticket prices and the perceived value of the content.
  • Concerns are raised about the popularity of pseudoscience and its acceptance in society, with references to a decline in the number of physicists and a shift towards speculative theories over established science.
  • Some participants discuss the economic feasibility of pursuing a PhD, arguing that the financial return may not justify the investment of time and resources required for the degree.
  • There are differing views on the cost of obtaining a PhD, with some arguing that funding opportunities exist in many programs, while others emphasize the financial burden associated with higher education.

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Participants express a range of opinions, with no consensus reached on the validity of Dr. Wolf's seminar or the broader implications of pseudoscience in academia. Disagreement exists regarding the economic viability of pursuing a PhD and the associated costs.

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Participants reference various assumptions about the financial implications of obtaining a PhD, including potential income differences and funding opportunities, but these claims remain unsubstantiated within the discussion.

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http://www.uq.edu.au/events/event_view.php?event_id=1561

Should we be concerned that The University Of Queensland is allowing this garbage to infect the minds of these students?

Dr Wolf will present the ideas of quantum physics relevant to spirituality, and will go over the basis of Dr Wolf`s work as taught in his books taking the Quantum Leap, Star Wave, Parallel Universe, The Eagle`s Quest, The Dreaming Universe and The Spiritual Universe in layman`s terms.

Something tells me Dr Fred Alan Wolf is not qualified to lecture on modern science and especially quantum physics, what a joke!
 
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I think the jokes on the people who pay $100 to see that :P
 
UQ Location: Hawken Engineering Building
...
Ticket Prices
$149 - nibbana subscribers (www.nibbana.com.au - free to join), UQ staff and
lecturers (quote UQ on booking form).
$99 - UQ students (quote UQ and student number on booking form)
Wow... :mad:

(btw Pengwunio - $100 is only $73)
 
http://www.nibbana.com.au/uploadedfiles/gr_event_FredAlanWolf.jpg

The guy looks like santa claus. Why doesn't he give a lecture on Santa Claus and how quantum physics proves the existence of Santa Claus and little elves or whatever in the north pole?
 
rachmaninoff said:
(btw Pengwunio - $100 is only $73)


Still too much :P
 
You know, somewhere I read that there was a decline in the number of physicists in the United States, maybe it was a money thing, or maybe it was an anti science thing, and I’m not all too sure what the situation is like in Australia, but I can’t imagine it being all that much better. Is it just me, or is this whole What the Bleep “documentary” seen as “cool?” you know pseudoscience all of a sudden becoming popular. If it’s not ID sweeping the globe like a disease, we now have pseudoscience make the rounds. “Real science, nah, I’ll pass, just give me the speculative theories, and have some guy lecture me on how science supports his ideas of the supernatural. You know, cause that makes me feel good, and I can’t handle the real world, I’m comfortable in my own little world and the delusions most of us seem to share, and make me pay through the nose, cause that way I feel like I’m getting something for my money.”
 
Vast said:
You know, somewhere I read that there was a decline in the number of physicists in the United States, maybe it was a money thing, or maybe it was an anti science thing, and I’m not all too sure what the situation is like in Australia, but I can’t imagine it being all that much better. Is it just me, or is this whole What the Bleep “documentary” seen as “cool?” you know pseudoscience all of a sudden becoming popular. If it’s not ID sweeping the globe like a disease, we now have pseudoscience make the rounds. “Real science, nah, I’ll pass, just give me the speculative theories, and have some guy lecture me on how science supports his ideas of the supernatural. You know, cause that makes me feel good, and I can’t handle the real world, I’m comfortable in my own little world and the delusions most of us seem to share, and make me pay through the nose, cause that way I feel like I’m getting something for my money.”


The problem is that it is economically infeasible to get a PhD. The increased income is not enough to offset the years of income lost while getting the degree. Basically, there is the only benefit at all is the subject matter itself. Economically, PhDs lose. Not that that will stop me.
 
franznietzsche said:
The problem is that it is economically infeasible to get a PhD. The increased income is not enough to offset the years of income lost while getting the degree. Basically, there is the only benefit at all is the subject matter itself. Economically, PhDs lose. Not that that will stop me.
What? Could you please do something to substantiate this claim please.

I will make a general case.

Lets say you already have your BS in some degree and are making $40,000/yr a year, seems reasonable to me. Then you go to school for, say 8 years (probably a little long, but let's keep it) and you now have your phd in something. Now with your Phd you are making say $75,000/yr, seems reasonable.
Lets say you want to work until you are 55 years old, and then retire.

Lets say you graduated with your BS at the age of 23. Therefore you would have got your phd when you were 31.

55-23 years at $40,000/yr = $1,280,000
55-31 years at $75,000/yr = $1,800,000

So your phd would end up allowing you to make almost 1.5 times as much as you would have getting just your BS. Granted I did not include raises, but I would say they would cancel out. Please correct me if I am wrong, or am missing something. I did not include student loans as I believe most Phd students can support themselves by being a TA or whatever.
 
Also, I'm not sure that it really costs that much to get a PhD. Especially in the sciences, most of the better universities will fund you. Even in the humanities, you can get a teaching fellowship. In either case, you have to work (research and teaching), but that's what you're learning to do anyway. The schools that really send you into much greater debt are the professional schools, but the graduates of these (law school, medical school, dental school) usually do make enough additional money to more than justify living like a pauper until you're in your thirties.
 

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