Where Does Innovation Thrive: Universities or the Capitalist Market?

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The discussion explores the origins of innovation, specifically questioning whether it primarily arises from universities or the capitalist market. It touches on the economic perspectives of different political ideologies regarding innovation sources.

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  • Some participants suggest that conservatives believe innovation stems from wealthy investments in the free market, while liberals advocate for government-funded research and university-driven innovation.
  • Another participant challenges this characterization, arguing that innovation can occur in various contexts, including markets, industries, companies, universities, governments, and among individuals, regardless of their affiliation.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that innovation is driven by need, stating that "need is the mother of invention."
  • One participant notes that the discussion of innovation without political context has been deemed insufficiently relevant, leading to the closure of the thread.

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jaydnul
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I'm curious where real innovation comes from. In trying to understand the economics of both sides of the political aisle, it seems to be a difference in a opinion of where innovation comes from.

Conservatives think innovation comes from the wealthy investing in ideas within the free market, while liberals more or less want that money taxed and in the hands of the lower classes and rely on innovation coming from universities and government funded research.

So where does most innovation happen, in universities or in a capitalist market?
 
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jaydnul said:
Conservatives think innovation comes from the wealthy investing in ideas within the free market, while liberals more or less want that money taxed and in the hands of the lower classes and rely on innovation coming from universities and government funded research.
That's a pretty broad, if not inaccurate, generalization.

Innovation can occur within markets (not necessarily capitalist), within an industries, within a companies, within a universities, within governments, on with an individual or group of individuals, whether they are outside an academia, industry or government, or in one of those settings.

A propos - http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www-old/books/sources/SofI.pdf

http://www.incrementalinnovation.co...-development/7-sources-innovative-opportunity

https://hbr.org/2002/08/the-discipline-of-innovation
 
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jaydnul said:
So where does most innovation happen, in universities or in a capitalist market?

Wherever there is a need. Need is the mother of invention.
 
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Sorry, we no longer discuss politics, and the question of innovation sans politics seems to have been sufficiently answered. Thread closed.
 

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