Who was the legendary boxer that passed away at age 74?

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The discussion centers around the passing of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali at the age of 74, reflecting on his life, career, and impact on boxing and society. Participants share personal memories, opinions on his character, and the significance of his actions both inside and outside the ring.

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  • Some participants express condolences and reflect on Ali's status as a celebrated athlete and gentleman.
  • Others highlight Ali's principled stands, particularly against the Vietnam War, and how this shaped his legacy.
  • One participant recalls the excitement of Ali's first heavyweight title bout against Sonny Liston and mentions the controversies surrounding that match.
  • There are reflections on Ali's transformation from Cassius Clay to a universally admired figure, despite earlier controversies related to his beliefs.
  • Some participants note the differing opinions on the impact of boxing on Ali's health, particularly regarding his Parkinson's disease.
  • Several participants emphasize Ali's unique influence on professional sports and media, suggesting that his legacy is unmatched.

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Participants generally agree on Ali's greatness and impact, but there are differing views on specific aspects of his life, such as the controversies surrounding his early career and the effects of boxing on his health.

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The discussion includes personal anecdotes and reflections that may not encompass the full complexity of Ali's life and career, as well as varying interpretations of his legacy and health issues.

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Boxing great Muhammad Ali has died after his health took a turn for the worse.

Ali, 74, one of the world's most celebrated athletes, was hospitalised this week for a respiratory ailment.

News before was that he only had hours to live.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80754026/muhammad-ali-has-died

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11650743

RIP.
 
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The last news that I heard was that he was expected to just be in the hospital for a short stay.
Ali was a true gentleman. Rest in peace.
 
The guy never hesitated to stand up for what he thought was right. Was truly the greatest of all time. RIP.
 
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A true class act. And what a character. As a kid, I always enjoyed the interplay between Ali and Cosell.
 
I remember him as Cassius Clay before the draft for the Vietnam war. His daughter Laila Ali is on the Food Network and she comes across as delightful, he has stunningly beautiful children, may he rest in peace and best wishes for his family.
 
R.I.P Muhammad Ali!
 
I and all the other males in my extended family were gathered around the radio when Cassius Clay fought heavily favored Sonny Liston for his first professional heavyweight title bout. The elders were all amazed when Clay scored his stunning first round knockout. Claims of a fix were widely made but never resolved. Whatever the truth of that match, I followed Clay, then later Ali, for the remainder of his career. He was the most important boxer I ever heard of, not just for his amazing speed, power and cunning in the ring, but also for his principled stand against the Vietnam war and draft which cost him years from his fighting prime.

It is ironic that the form of Islam he practiced, at least at the beginning, stood for separation of the races and religions. In later years, he is transformed into an almost universally admired and even unifying figure, despite the faux pas along the way.

I have also heard widely differing opinions on the effect of boxing on his subsequent Parkinson's disease.

Bottom line, Muhammad Ali's revolutionary effect upon professional sports, aided by media figures such as Howard Cosell, was such that there literally can never be another like him - a true legend
 
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