Who Will Secure the Final Spots in the NHL Eastern Playoff Race?

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The discussion revolves around the NHL Eastern playoff race, focusing on which teams will secure the final playoff spots. Participants express their preferences for teams, analyze performance, and critique players and management. The conversation includes speculation about team dynamics and individual player contributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants are closely following the playoff race, noting the tight competition among several teams for the final spots.
  • There is a preference expressed for original six teams, particularly Toronto and the Rangers, to succeed in the playoffs.
  • Concerns are raised about the performance of certain teams, with some participants criticizing the Toronto Maple Leafs and their management decisions.
  • Participants discuss the leadership qualities of Mats Sundin, with differing opinions on his effectiveness as a captain.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the legitimacy of teams like Nashville making the playoffs, suggesting it feels inappropriate.
  • There are mixed feelings about the performance of various players, with some arguing that certain players lack the leadership qualities expected of them.

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Participants express a range of opinions about team performances and player capabilities, with no clear consensus on the effectiveness of specific players or management strategies. Disagreements exist regarding the leadership qualities of Mats Sundin and the appropriateness of certain teams in the playoffs.

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Some statements reflect personal biases and emotional responses to team performances, which may influence the perspectives shared. The discussion includes assumptions about player capabilities and team dynamics that are not universally accepted.

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So is anyone watching the playoff race?

7 teams divided by 4 points fighting for 4 spots with 5-6 games left (1 spot guaranteed to ATL/TB/CAR)

ATL 88, NYR 87, TB 86, MTL 86, CAR 84, TOR 84, NYI 84.

HEH i hope it turns out to be ATL MTL, TOR and TB
but it looks like it NYR will oust TB/TOR.
 
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russ_watters said:
Baseball starts in 4 days...
HEATHEN!

I'm following. Personally, I always pull for an original 6 team. I would like to see either Toronto or the Rangers make it. I wish we played more Eastern conference teams during the season.
 
FredGarvin said:
HEATHEN!

I'm following. Personally, I always pull for an original 6 team. I would like to see either Toronto or the Rangers make it. I wish we played more Eastern conference teams during the season.

What about Montreal.
 
FredGarvin said:
HEATHEN!

I'm following.
I'm from Philly - our season ended last April.
 
russ_watters said:
I'm from Philly - our season ended last April.

Man! Terrible season for them. By the end of the season they'll be 20 points behind the second last place team. :eek:

I'm cheering for the Penguins. Let's see Crosby raise that cup!
 
Go Red Wings!
 
though i'll be rooting for an all Canadian final(VAN vs MTL/TOR)

if none of them are in the final..go SABRES/PENS/NASHVILLE.
its about time the sabres redeemed themselves from the MOGILNY/LAFONTAINE and PECA/HASEK era's. Or i hope Gary Roberts gets another ring.
 
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Gary Roberts has turned into a complete bast...He needs to retire.

The mere thought of a team like Nashville or Columbus even being in the playoffs is frightening if not just plain wrong.

Sorry Russ. I forgot you were hockey handicapped.
 
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FredGarvin said:
The mere thought of a team like Nashville or Columbus even being in the playoffs is frightening if not just plain wrong.

Are you serious?

They're playing great. They're playing hockey.

Teams like Toronto, Philadelphia, Chicago, and so on plain old suck at hockey. Toronto might make the playoffs, but they certainly don't deserve it. The freaking 1 point losses got them where they are. I hope they get rid of it next years.

Anyways, I'm a Leafs, but I've been waiting for years for Toronto to revamp their team. Instead, they cling on to false hopes. Freaking retarded. I've been to a hockey game (live) and met a bunch of pure Leaf fans and almost all agreed to get rid of Mats Sundin among other players the coaching staff think are good. Sundin is no leader get rid of him. Get rid of Ferguson who can't make deals worth ****. Man, I even met some Leaf fans who also don't want the Leafs to make the playoffs mainly because that will increase the chance to get rid of Sundin!
 
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sundin may not be a leader but he's atleast a #2 man.

The Leafs just have a sucky home stats...why can't they win at home.
 
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neurocomp2003 said:
sundin may not be a leader but he's atleast a #2 man.

The Leafs just have a sucky home stats...why can't they win at home.

He will barely be a #2 man by the next year. He's quickly washing away.
 
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I agree that most teams' problems start with horrible GMs. Sundin seems to me to be another one of those players that has wicked skills and could dominate if he wanted to. He's like Forsberg was at Philly (when he wasn't injured). Personally I think it's a silent protest on their parts to show they don't like playing for a crappy GM or coaching staff.

Nashville and hockey just do not go together. They are playing well, but it's like sleeping with your sister...it's just wrong.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I agree that most teams' problems start with horrible GMs. Sundin seems to me to be another one of those players that has wicked skills and could dominate if he wanted to. He's like Forsberg was at Philly (when he wasn't injured). Personally I think it's a silent protest on their parts to show they don't like playing for a crappy GM or coaching staff.

Nashville and hockey just do not go together. They are playing well, but it's like sleeping with your sister...it's just wrong.

Yes, Sundin should not be captain though. He's not a leader whatsoever. Tucker himself said so. He said that Sundin rarely, if ever, speaks up to the team during intermissions and such. That's freaking sad for a captain.

Oh, and Sundin can never dominate. He's a baby. He skips out on the 1st round of playoffs everytime the Leafs make the playoffs and so on. Again, that also shows how much of a leader he isn't!
 
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I have never heard that about his captain abilities. That's not something to get on him about. I would agree to take the C away from him if that's the case. Just don't give it to Tucker
 
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FredGarvin said:
I have never heard that about his captain abilities. That's not something to get on him about. I would agree to take the C away from him if that's the case. Just don't give it to Tucker

It was on an interview about 4 weeks ago now. When Toronto came back in the third against Ottawa and won.

The interviewer heard about Sundin talking during the 2nd intermission, and asked Tucker "How often does Sundin stand up and lead the team like he did in the locker room?", Tuckey said "Almost never. He's the kind of leader where we are suppose to feel his leadership present." What the **** is that? That's no leader. I'm supposed to feel it. That's messed up.
 
  • #18
I have skated with guys that were like that. However they were never captains. Those are the kind of guys that, just because they are on the ice with you, you find yourself playing better. If he is like that he shouldn't be in that position. Then again, if he doesn't "feel" like playing his best he should be out on his butt just like any other pro prima donna.