Why does surface area of an Event Horizon increase?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the increase of the surface area of an event horizon, particularly in the context of black holes and its implications for entropy. Participants explore the reasons behind this phenomenon, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects related to black hole physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference Stephen Hawking's assertion that an increase in the surface area of an event horizon corresponds to an increase in entropy.
  • One participant notes that the surface area is dependent on the radius, which is proportional to the mass of the black hole.
  • Another participant explains that the event horizon increases as the black hole pulls more material into itself, thereby enlarging the event horizon.
  • It is mentioned that the event horizon represents the boundary beyond which no paths lead back out of the black hole, with more massive black holes having a larger event horizon due to greater curvature of space.
  • A participant provides the formula for the surface area of a black hole, indicating that it increases as the Schwarzschild radius increases with additional mass.
  • There is a challenge to the idea that material can orbit the black hole indefinitely, clarifying that trapped material falls through the event horizon and into the singularity, though it is not visible to outside observers.
  • One participant suggests that this topic has been discussed extensively in other threads, indicating a broader context for the inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanisms behind the increase in surface area of the event horizon, with some agreeing on the role of mass and curvature while others contest specific interpretations of how material interacts with the event horizon. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of black holes and the behavior of material near the event horizon are not fully explored, and there are unresolved nuances regarding the dynamics of material falling into black holes versus those that may appear to orbit them.

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Stephen hawking came to know of a study that stated that surface area of an event horizon increases. So he said that since area has increased Entropy also had increased.

But why does surface area of an Event Horizon increase?
 
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That's a theorem (proven by Hawking). Are you asking about the proof of the theorem?
 
avito009 said:
Stephen hawking came to know of a study that stated that surface area of an event horizon increases. So he said that since area has increased Entropy also had increased.

But why does surface area of an Event Horizon increase?
Surface area depends on radius. Radius is proportional to mass.
 
avito009 said:
Stephen hawking came to know of a study that stated that surface area of an event horizon increases. So he said that since area has increased Entropy also had increased.

But why does surface area of an Event Horizon increase?
It increases due to the black hole pulling more material into itself, therefore trapping it in the event horizon, enlarging it. The material would get trapped into an 'orbit' around the black hole. Never able to escape, neither get pulled into the black hole.
 
The event horizon is simply the distance from the center of the black hole where the curvature of space becomes so great that there are no paths through spacetime that can lead you back out of it. Just outside the event horizon the curvature of space is still extreme and the only paths available that don't take you into the black hole are the ones where your velocity is either the speed of light or very close to it. Since mass causes curvature of space, a more massive black hole will curve space more, causing the event horizon to be located further out, which means that the "surface" is larger.
 
avito009 said:
But why does surface area of an Event Horizon increase?

The surface area of a black hole is given by ##4\pi{R}^2## where ##R## is the Schwarzschild radius. The schwarzschild radius increases as mass falls into the black hole, so the area also does.
 
EpicAll Rounder said:
It increases due to the black hole pulling more material into itself
yes.
therefore trapping it in the event horizon, enlarging it. The material would get trapped into an 'orbit' around the black hole. Never able to escape, neither get pulled into the black hole.
That's not right. The trapped material falls through the event horizon and into the central singularity rather quickly; it's just that an observer outside the event horizon doesn't get to see it.

This question has been the subject of many threads over in the relativity forum, so you may want to try searching the topic there.
 

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