Why does the US have a large building dedicated to war

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The discussion revolves around the presence of a large building in the US dedicated to military operations, questioning its significance compared to efforts in poverty reduction. Participants explore themes of democracy, military expenditure, and societal values, with a mix of humor and serious inquiry.

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  • Some participants question the rationale behind having a large military headquarters, suggesting it reflects a prioritization of offense over social issues like poverty.
  • Others point out that there are also significant buildings dedicated to poverty reduction, although they receive less attention.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the motivations behind military actions, referencing historical events like the WTC attack and the influence of organizations like PNAC.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the shape of buildings, with some participants making light of the Pentagon's design and its implications.
  • Some participants discuss the nature of assumptions in questions, emphasizing the importance of not making unfounded claims.
  • One participant mentions the US's humanitarian aid efforts, suggesting that America spends significantly on fighting poverty, though this is not universally agreed upon.

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Participants express a mix of viewpoints, with some agreeing on the importance of questioning military priorities while others defend the existence of military infrastructure. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the implications of military versus social spending.

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Some participants reference specific buildings and their functions, but there is no consensus on the broader implications of military spending versus social welfare. The discussion includes humor and philosophical musings that may detract from the original inquiry.

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Question;
Why does the US have a large building dedicated to offence, or murder or war?
Why not poverty reduction?
Is this democracy?
 
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That's a good question. The US also has a large building dedicated to poverty reduction. It's at 200 Independence Ave, Washington, DC. It only has four sides, though.
 
BobG said:
The US also has a large building dedicated to poverty reduction. It's at 200 Independence Ave, Washington, DC. It only has four sides, though.

:confused: ...ohhhh, you mean WARshington? :smile:
 
Polly said:
:confused: ...ohhhh, you mean WARshington? :smile:
I still believe that the majority of Americans are not war-mongers. Without the attack on the WTC the PNAC would never have got out of the AEI.

I suspect that they allowed the attack in order to implement their plan.

When they show me who they are, I believe them.
 
BobG said:
That's a good question. The US also has a large building dedicated to poverty reduction. It's at 200 Independence Ave, Washington, DC. It only has four sides, though.
It also has a large complex of buildings for keeping old people out of poverty (though it's in Arlington, not Washington), in addition to branch offices in most major cities in the country.

I love hyperbolic threads! They're fun.
 
russ_watters said:
It also has a large complex of buildings for keeping old people out of poverty (though it's in Arlington, not Washington), in addition to branch offices in most major cities in the country.
I love hyperbolic threads! They're fun.
:smile: I find it hard to take them seriously enough to respond. :smile:
 
flotsam said:
Question;
Why does the US have a large building dedicated to offence, or murder or war?
Actually it's for the Department of Defense. It hasn't been called the Department of War since 1949 (after WWII ended).

Big military. Big HQ.

Why not poverty reduction?
As noted, we got that covered too. It just gets less press time.

Is this democracy?
What, majority rules?
If I may generalize, Americans like having a strong military, and yet we want peace. For most of our history, American foreign policy has been largely isolationist. As the current economy is more and more globalized, America is drawn into more global issues/problems.

I'll stick my neck out and say (without looking up the numbers) that America spends more on humanitarian aid & fighting poverty than any other country (at least dollar-wise, although perhaps not percentage-wise).
 
...ohhhh, you mean WARshington?

LOL this coming from someone living a country with the largest standing army in the world that has also threatened all out war with Taiwan? LOL.
 
flotsam said:
Question;
Why does the US have a large [5-sided] building dedicated to offence, or murder or war?
Why not poverty reduction?
BobG said:
The US also has a large building dedicated to poverty reduction. It's at 200 Independence Ave, Washington, DC. It only has four sides, though.
This must prove that war is 25% more important than poverty reduction. :rolleyes:
 
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Why do uninformed people make threads about whatever they are uninformed about? It reminds me of when someone told me "The US should use mathematics in national security". O.O
 
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moose said:
Why do uninformed people make threads about whatever they are uninformed about?
So they may become informed ? Last I checked, asking questions is a good way to get information.

Of course, rhetorical questions (like those in the OP, for instance) are different, but if you are asking a general question, you have my answer. Now back to...what was it...the fistagon ?
 
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Gokul43201 said:
So they may become informed ? Last I checked, asking questions is a good way to get information.
Of course, rhetorical questions (like those in the OP, for instance) are different, but if you are asking a general question, you have my answer. Now back to...what was it...the fistagon ?

That's not what I tried to say :/

I wanted to say that people shouldn't make assumptions.

It's as if I were to ask Bill Gates "Howcome you have never donated any money to anyone?"

That would clearly indicate that I made an assumption in my question. Obviously he has donated tons, yet I am stating that he hasn't and asking why. There's a difference between "Have you ever murdered anyone?" to "why did you murder her?"
 
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moose said:
That's not what I tried to say :/
I wanted to say that people shouldn't make assumptions.
It's as if I were to ask Bill Gates "Howcome you have never donated any money to anyone?"
That would clearly indicate that I made an assumption in my question. Obviously he has donated tons, yet I am stating that he hasn't and asking why. There's a difference between "Have you ever murdered anyone?" to "why did you murder her?"

Yeah, but people must make assumptions all the time. at least, that's my assumption. For example; as I write this I'm assuming that nobody is outside trying to steal my car, and that nobody is snooping around my house, and that all my family members and friends are not in need of help, and that a meteorite isn't going to crash into my house. I'm not worrying about those possibilities because I'm making an assumption that they aren't occurring or going to occur in the time frame that I write this. I'm willing to bet that all human action and conversation is based on assumptions. I have to afterall assume that people will be able to understand what I'm typing also, otherwise there is no point in typing. Is it safe to assume that I'm getting too philosophical?:-p

oh yeah, Rage Against the Machine was a cool band. Although, I must say I liked their self titled album more than Evil Empire, Battle of Los Angeles has its moments...
 
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J Trig said:
oh yeah, Rage Against the Machine was a cool band. Although, I must say I liked their self titled album more than Evil Empire, Battle of Los Angeles has its moments...
Why don't you like Bad Religion? They're far superior in my opinion.








This post has been brought to you by the Ministry of Assumptions.
"Making an Ass out of U and Me since the beginning of time.":-p
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Of course, rhetorical questions (like those in the OP, for instance) are different, but if you are asking a general question, you have my answer. Now back to...what was it...the fistagon ?

I'm still kind of confused here. Shouldn't this be in the math forum? Are they inventing new shapes? Should the US make a more shapely defense headquarters? I suppose it is time for circle-shaped tanks...

By the way, the DHSS is only 3 miles away from the Pentagon... and yes, it unfortunately only has 4 sides.
 
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It looks like the original question was answered. Since there is nothing else presented for discussion, and the replies are just banter, I'm closing it while the banter is still friendly.
 

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