Why is Proper Training Important in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?

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The discussion revolves around the importance of proper training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) and related grappling arts. Participants share their experiences, preferences, and insights regarding training methods, the physical demands of the sport, and comparisons with other martial arts like Judo and wrestling.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enjoyment in practicing BJJ and highlight its practical applications in fighting systems.
  • Others describe their experiences in modified BJJ or grappling, noting the intense physical exertion involved in sparring sessions.
  • There are comparisons made between BJJ and Judo, with some arguing that Judo offers more spectacular techniques, while others appreciate the unique aspects of BJJ.
  • One participant emphasizes the rigorous training required in Greco-Roman wrestling, suggesting it is more demanding than BJJ, while also acknowledging the foundational skills BJJ provides.
  • Several participants share personal anecdotes about their training environments, including the community aspect and the camaraderie found in their respective dojos.
  • There is mention of notable figures in the BJJ community and their contributions, with some expressing admiration for the techniques taught at specific academies.
  • A participant warns against self-training, advocating for formal training in a gym to gain a better understanding of grappling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share a passion for BJJ and grappling, but there are competing views regarding the effectiveness and appeal of different martial arts, particularly between BJJ and Judo. The discussion remains unresolved on the best training methods and the relative merits of self-training versus formal instruction.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal experiences and subjective opinions about the physical demands of different martial arts, which may vary based on individual training backgrounds and preferences. There are also references to specific training environments and communities that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring martial arts, particularly those considering training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or related grappling disciplines, as well as fans of combat sports and martial arts culture.

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Here is a video of me sparring with my friend, I'm the one in long hair:



I'm self-trained, never been to a dojo, just do it for fun.
 
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I love jiu-jutsu, it's key to many practical fighting systems.
 
The dojo I go to teaches modified Brazillian jiu jitsu - they call it grappling. Two minute sparring bouts leave me feeling like I've just sprinted a mile without breathing! It's great, I love it.
 
I love Judo. BJJ is also great but as a sport is not as spectacular as Judo. An good throw is something to behold =)
 
lisab said:
The dojo I go to teaches modified Brazillian jiu jitsu - they call it grappling. Two minute sparring bouts leave me feeling like I've just sprinted a mile without breathing! It's great, I love it.

Wresting, be it BJJ or Greco-Roman is probably one of the most demanding activities possible. I performed G-R wrestling in high-school when I moved to the USA, and that makes Jiu Jutsu seem moderately tame by comparison. You train for hours and hours a day for that stamina, but if you are already in good shape it is a marvelous way to coordinate and develop the whole musculature.

Of course, BJJ is very useful in some fights, whereas G-R provides foundations, but is to a fight what fencing is to real swordplay.
 
DanP said:
I love Judo. BJJ is also great but as a sport is not as spectacular as Judo. An good throw is something to behold =)

I am 6'2"... I was tired of tiny people hip-tossing me in a half spin, so I gave Judo a rest for the sake of my hips and spine. It is amazing to behold, but no fun at all to experience. Going back to Krav Maga however, you never get away from the basic tenants of Judo... much like body control in G-R wrestling, or locks and grips in JJ, and footwork in monkey Kung Fu
 
5'11'' , and just shy of 200 lbs. A decent build for Judo. I enjoy it. Besides, my city is a very strong Judo center, one of the best in Romania, so it's kinda a tradition around here. Most kids going in combat sports here go into Judo. Second most popular is boxing.

Btw, some awesome newaza from some guys in Rio de Janeiro, from the legendary Mehdi academy, pretty nice to see:

http://www.youtube.com/user/loudenvier#p/u/32/ym1HTjXLD1c
 
DanP said:
5'11'' , and just shy of 200 lbs. A decent build for Judo. I enjoy it. Besides, my city is a very strong Judo center, one of the best in Romania, so it's kinda a tradition around here. Most kids going in combat sports here go into Judo. Second most popular is boxing.

Btw, some awesome newaza from some guys in Rio de Janeiro, from the legendary Mehdi academy, pretty nice to see:

http://www.youtube.com/user/loudenvier#p/u/32/ym1HTjXLD1c

Wow, that is terrific stuff. Thanks for the link! It is people like you btw, who kept tossing me to the mat. Darn your lower centers of gravity! ;)
 
IcedEcliptic said:
Wow, that is terrific stuff.

Id wish to see more stuff from Mehdi's academy. The guy is legend. Supposedly he is the one who said that Gracies emphasise ground fighting because they ""don't know how to throw".
There are a lot of no holds barred / bjj legends which spent time with Mehdi, like Rickson Gracie, Behring brothers, Mario Sperry, Murillo Bustamante.
 
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Glad we got some Jiu Jitsu fans! I put up some more Jitsu videos btw.
 
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Excellent, I'll go and have a look. Thanks :)
 
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That's awesome! I love jiu-jitsu although I've never done it. My brother is currently training and practicing so it's cool to see him actively engaging in a hobby. It's really a growing sport right now! Love watching MMA, too!
 
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Yeah, I'll be getting the UFC game next month, can't wait. Not a fan of the submission system though, ugh. If anyone has Xbox Live add me: OCdratsab, it'd be fun to face you guys.
 
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I really enjoy it, I practice Jiu-Jitsu and kickboxing. A great way to relieve stress.
 
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I do brazilian Jiu jitsu. Been doing it on and off for 2 years now. I train at a renzo gracie affiliate school and man i love it. My mind is constantly on bjj and the team atmosphere is amazing. Everybody has a common goal there. To get better in bjj. We can all relate so we help each other out. It's literally like my 2nd family. I'll be spending my whole summer there doing bjj and kettle bell.

Here's a great video showcasing the difference between a black belt and a purple belt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkonXj4tlFY&feature=player_embedded

Also, dratsab, seriously get yourself to a gym now. Do any sort of grappling like wrestling or judo. Atleast that will get your foot in the water for REAL GRAPPLING. DON'T SELF TRAIN. There's a huge difference between someone who actually goes to the gym and self training yourself.
 

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